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<blockquote data-quote="SlyDoubt" data-source="post: 5796551" data-attributes="member: 6667337">This discussion got pretty wild with the introduction of Gandalf.Just because Gandalf and Merlin represent the human archetype of a magic using character doesn't mean they represent anything like the wizard in dungeons and dragons.Those characters are examples of the modern foundation, not the actual representation. They're where I think most people get the idea of 'magic' from (at least north america and western europe I think).They aren't any more than characters who used magic in some form. That's the important part to remember. I don't think the wizard in D&amp;D specifically resembles any other wizard except for itself. Just like I think the cleric in it's D&amp;D form is pretty specific too. It's just a difference between passive and active influence. I don't think the D&amp;D wizard is specifically modeled after gandalf or merlin. He's just also a magic user (which is a big thing to have in common) and along with that come all sorts of assumptions due to merlin and gandalf being sort of the cultural foundation of magic for I think most english speakers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SlyDoubt, post: 5796551, member: 6667337"] This discussion got pretty wild with the introduction of Gandalf. Just because Gandalf and Merlin represent the human archetype of a magic using character doesn't mean they represent anything like the wizard in dungeons and dragons. Those characters are examples of the modern foundation, not the actual representation. They're where I think most people get the idea of 'magic' from (at least north america and western europe I think). They aren't any more than characters who used magic in some form. That's the important part to remember. I don't think the wizard in D&D specifically resembles any other wizard except for itself. Just like I think the cleric in it's D&D form is pretty specific too. It's just a difference between passive and active influence. I don't think the D&D wizard is specifically modeled after gandalf or merlin. He's just also a magic user (which is a big thing to have in common) and along with that come all sorts of assumptions due to merlin and gandalf being sort of the cultural foundation of magic for I think most english speakers. [/QUOTE]

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