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<blockquote data-quote="kaomera" data-source="post: 5516493" data-attributes="member: 38357"><p>See, I can get behind that. But I just don't understand some of the other stuff. OK, you see no healing, no conditions, and no dailies as boring and no fun. I don't but I also don't see anyone <em>insisting</em> on any of that. Yes, that's the way some of the HotFL / HotFK sub-classes work, and I've found that I can still enjoy them, but I don't see why anyone should be assuming that I don't want healing, conditions, and dailies for martial classes or for any classes, really. Lack of dailies is still the big (mechanical) reason I don't like the psionic classes; power points don't work for me. But, ya'know, whatever... That stuff rocks some players worlds, and good for them.</p><p></p><p>I also don't feel like the fear that WotC will "take away what I want to play my game" really seems legitimate to me. I almost feel like if you think that "traditional 4E is probably getting support" in HoS then you haven't been reading the same previews that I have.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://wizards.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2161/~/faq-for-heroes-of-shadow!" target="_blank">FAQ for Heroes of Shadow!</a></p><p></p><p>The idea that the support that's been previewed is "backhanded support" bothers me. Because I think that's an issue of your perception, and I don't think that anyone else can really affect that. If the fact that some portion of future products will be aimed at sub-classes from the essentials products is going to bug you, that sucks... Like, let's say someone really didn't like the Divine power source - there's big chunks of a lot of products that's just wasted paper (or bytes for DDI stuff). There's an advantage there, tho, in that an entire major source (Divine Power) can just be ignored pretty much in it's entirety (probably). But I don't think segregating material that acknowledges the essentials products and material that doesn't is the way to go, at all. I think that just wouldn't work out for WotC and would end up leading to no new material for anyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kaomera, post: 5516493, member: 38357"] See, I can get behind that. But I just don't understand some of the other stuff. OK, you see no healing, no conditions, and no dailies as boring and no fun. I don't but I also don't see anyone [I]insisting[/I] on any of that. Yes, that's the way some of the HotFL / HotFK sub-classes work, and I've found that I can still enjoy them, but I don't see why anyone should be assuming that I don't want healing, conditions, and dailies for martial classes or for any classes, really. Lack of dailies is still the big (mechanical) reason I don't like the psionic classes; power points don't work for me. But, ya'know, whatever... That stuff rocks some players worlds, and good for them. I also don't feel like the fear that WotC will "take away what I want to play my game" really seems legitimate to me. I almost feel like if you think that "traditional 4E is probably getting support" in HoS then you haven't been reading the same previews that I have. [url=http://wizards.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2161/~/faq-for-heroes-of-shadow!]FAQ for Heroes of Shadow![/url] The idea that the support that's been previewed is "backhanded support" bothers me. Because I think that's an issue of your perception, and I don't think that anyone else can really affect that. If the fact that some portion of future products will be aimed at sub-classes from the essentials products is going to bug you, that sucks... Like, let's say someone really didn't like the Divine power source - there's big chunks of a lot of products that's just wasted paper (or bytes for DDI stuff). There's an advantage there, tho, in that an entire major source (Divine Power) can just be ignored pretty much in it's entirety (probably). But I don't think segregating material that acknowledges the essentials products and material that doesn't is the way to go, at all. I think that just wouldn't work out for WotC and would end up leading to no new material for anyone. [/QUOTE]
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