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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kaomera" data-source="post: 5516778" data-attributes="member: 38357">I'm seeing people post that options have been stripped from all martial characters. They may mean that they feel like the current design direction could lead to the possible loss of some options for martial characters in the future, but that's not how what they've written reads. Hence my continued disbelief.Some examples of what I'm talking about:I apologize if I'm mis-reading any of that, but it comes across as stating as fact things that I feel are just not so. (And there was one more posts that I don't feel completely comfortable quoting or replying to.) I'll admit that I have a strong difference of opinion on some of the basic assertions about the essentials martial sub-classes, such as that they have "basically no options" or are on-par in terms of mechanical complexity with early-edition fighters, or that somehow liking them means that I don't actually want to play 4e.And if you're strictly talking about future possibilities, then I'm not sure there's much room for fruitful discussion. I've seen the previews of material from HoS that provide support for pre-essentials characters generally dismissed and ignored, and if WotC isn't actually engaged in some kind of dire conspiracy against the essentials-haters (which apparently includes falsifying previews?) then it can be safely disregarded as not being real, significant support, simply because they haven't completely disavowed the essentials products.So, why can't I have all three (simple, retro, 4e)? Do you seriously expect me to believe that you're going to come to my house and take all of my D&D books away from me? Because that's what it would take. I've got all three. Right here. Seriously.</blockquote>

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