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<blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 5517712" data-attributes="member: 11821"><p>Then show your work.  What is the impact on balance?  I'm seeing theorycraft from you, while what I'm seeing at my own table with mixed classes is ... a perfectly working mix of classes, and no imbalance between characters.</p><p></p><p>In other words, if there's an imbalance, shouldn't I be seeing it?  What is going on in my own game that I'm unaware of?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Given that 4e is a different game from 1e, 2e, and 3e, I think those 34 years can safely be disregarded when we're talking about 4e.  It's a completely different system.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Some classes are good at steady damage over time.  Some are good at burst damage.  This is already happening, and was before Essentials.  Some classes rely more on their dailies, some rely on them less.</p><p></p><p>What maintains the balance for Slayers is something like this...</p><p></p><p>Mighty Slayer</p><p>Slayer Weapon Specialization</p><p>Inexorable Slayer</p><p>Armored Mobility</p><p>Constantly improving Power Strike</p><p>Constantly improving striker bonus damage</p><p></p><p>But the proof is in the play, and when we're talking something that's often subjective, like class balance, I don't know how else to look at it.  I don't have a slayer in my game, but I have its close cousin, the Thief.  She's doing good, solid striker damage - nothing out of line.  She's up there with the S-K Pact Warlock.</p><p></p><p>-O</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Obryn, post: 5517712, member: 11821"] Then show your work. What is the impact on balance? I'm seeing theorycraft from you, while what I'm seeing at my own table with mixed classes is ... a perfectly working mix of classes, and no imbalance between characters. In other words, if there's an imbalance, shouldn't I be seeing it? What is going on in my own game that I'm unaware of? Given that 4e is a different game from 1e, 2e, and 3e, I think those 34 years can safely be disregarded when we're talking about 4e. It's a completely different system. Some classes are good at steady damage over time. Some are good at burst damage. This is already happening, and was before Essentials. Some classes rely more on their dailies, some rely on them less. What maintains the balance for Slayers is something like this... Mighty Slayer Slayer Weapon Specialization Inexorable Slayer Armored Mobility Constantly improving Power Strike Constantly improving striker bonus damage But the proof is in the play, and when we're talking something that's often subjective, like class balance, I don't know how else to look at it. I don't have a slayer in my game, but I have its close cousin, the Thief. She's doing good, solid striker damage - nothing out of line. She's up there with the S-K Pact Warlock. -O [/QUOTE]
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