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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5517742" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Depends on The Maths.</p><p></p><p>Hypothetically:</p><p></p><p>You deal about 5 points of damage with an "at-will." You take roughly 5 turns per combat, and have about 3 combats per day, so you're dealing 75 points of damage per day.</p><p></p><p>Another class with the same role deals 3 points of damage with an "at-will." They deal about 45 points of damage each day. They ALSO have a daily ability that deals 30 points of damage all at once (TIMES TEN MULTIPLIER!!!). They're dealing 75 points of damage per day. </p><p></p><p>These classes are "balanced." They're capable of the same thing. They do it in different ways, but in the end, they have the same effect on the combats in a day. </p><p></p><p>So the usage doesn't have to affect the balance. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Have you read a Slayer thread? The consensus on the interwebs is that they are <strong>possibly more powerful than other strikers</strong>. This consensus is formed of three main pillars:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +DEX modifier to damage (the Heroic Slayer and Mighty Slayer features)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> STR and DEX being the only required stats (giving you an extra 2-4 points of damage each attack).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> The never-miss, never-useless Power Strike ability that you get multiple times, and can use in every encounter. </li> </ul><p>The onus, I think, is on you to show that lacking dailies is a problem for them. They can't blast 4[W] in a single attack, but, as I showed above, that doesn't  necessarily make them any weaker in a day than any other Striker.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5517742, member: 2067"] Depends on The Maths. Hypothetically: You deal about 5 points of damage with an "at-will." You take roughly 5 turns per combat, and have about 3 combats per day, so you're dealing 75 points of damage per day. Another class with the same role deals 3 points of damage with an "at-will." They deal about 45 points of damage each day. They ALSO have a daily ability that deals 30 points of damage all at once (TIMES TEN MULTIPLIER!!!). They're dealing 75 points of damage per day. These classes are "balanced." They're capable of the same thing. They do it in different ways, but in the end, they have the same effect on the combats in a day. So the usage doesn't have to affect the balance. Have you read a Slayer thread? The consensus on the interwebs is that they are [B]possibly more powerful than other strikers[/B]. This consensus is formed of three main pillars: [LIST] [*] +DEX modifier to damage (the Heroic Slayer and Mighty Slayer features) [*] STR and DEX being the only required stats (giving you an extra 2-4 points of damage each attack). [*] The never-miss, never-useless Power Strike ability that you get multiple times, and can use in every encounter. [/LIST] The onus, I think, is on you to show that lacking dailies is a problem for them. They can't blast 4[W] in a single attack, but, as I showed above, that doesn't necessarily make them any weaker in a day than any other Striker. [/QUOTE]
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