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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vagabundo" data-source="post: 5353953" data-attributes="member: 55864">It doesn't really matter to me what people call it, but it isn't what I would consider 4.5. If anything the MM3 was a bigger change to 4e than the essentials line, would you consider that part of 4.5? What about the phbIII?Essentials is just a new set of classes in a new book format. Noting about it screams incompatiblity. They have some extra/different rules for use with the 4e game; options not replacements. They are an addition, I don't have to get them. At the moment the first set of core books are still for sale and still being sent from warehouses. If they ever sell out I'm sure that they will be reprinted or something else will take their place. And I still would not see that as 4.5e.3.5 burned me by being a pretend upgrade and not fixing any of the issues I had with 3.x. BTW I have no problem with calling a .5 edition a .5 edition if it fits the bill. But nothing about essentials says that to me.</blockquote>