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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7989386">You really think it's an appropriately balanced 3rd level ability if there's no drawback?In the other thread I offered some numbers.&nbsp; You know how good Assassinate is if you can manage to get surprise?&nbsp; Frenzy is just as good in that first round, without surprise.&nbsp; Then it continues to be equivalent to the rogue's free crit in every subsequent round. As was discussed elsewhere, it's only a<s>n extremely steep</s> price if you just pop it every time you rage.&nbsp; Sure, if you want to whiteroom a scenario where you rage and frenzy in the first three fights of the day, then you do the same thing the next day, and THEN you suddenly discover that being exhausted was really a bad idea...well, yeah.&nbsp; No $#%&amp;. If you play as smart as I'm sure you're able to, and use frenzy strategically, it's only sometimes a price, and pretty reasonable at that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 7989386"] You really think it's an appropriately balanced 3rd level ability if there's no drawback? In the other thread I offered some numbers. You know how good Assassinate is [I]if[/I] you can manage to get surprise? Frenzy is just as good in that first round, without surprise. Then it continues to be equivalent to the rogue's free crit [I]in every subsequent round[/I]. As was discussed elsewhere, it's only a[S]n extremely steep[/S] price if you just pop it every time you rage. Sure, if you want to whiteroom a scenario where you rage and frenzy in the first three fights of the day, then you do the same thing the next day, and THEN you suddenly discover that being exhausted was really a bad idea...well, yeah. No $#%&. If you play as smart as I'm sure you're able to, and use frenzy strategically, it's only sometimes a price, and pretty reasonable at that. [/QUOTE]

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