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<blockquote data-quote="DogBackward" data-source="post: 4428035" data-attributes="member: 50642"><p>I think having access to multiple power sources is something that should be paid for. I'd say that you choose one power source, and access to extra power sources should cost 1p each. This won't mess up your "recreate the classes" deal, since none of the classes use multiple sources as is.</p><p></p><p>Then, say that anyone who chooses the Divine power source gains the ability to use a Holy Symbol as an implement, since that is a specific class feature. Using a divine power doesn't give you the ability to use Holy Symbols automatically, and the same goes for arcane powers and arcane implements. And anyone taking the Arcane power source gains the ability to use one arcane implement; Wand, Rod, Staff or Orb. Allow the ability to use other implements at the cost of 1p per implement.</p><p></p><p>This allows you to take 2p off the cost of the Wizard, since it will cost 2p to get all three implements that the Wizard can use. You can remove Wizard Training, since you have the power source seperation above. And you can reduce the Cantrips to cost 1p each, instead of 5p for all of them, so you can take individual cantrips if you want.</p><p></p><p>As for the Warlock, you should reduce the cost of the Pact Boon to 2p. For one, this puts the cost of the Warlock back to normal, since you now have to pay 1p to get both Wands and Rods like a normal Warlock. Second, you need Warlock's Curse just to have any use for Pact Boon, which should reduce the cost a bit anyway.</p><p></p><p>I still don't think Ritual Casting and Spellbook should cost that much; they're not really that useful. I understand why you did it, but is exact replication of the classes, cost-wise, more important, or is balancing things by how useful they actually are more important? I personally think it's the latter, but it's your system, after all...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DogBackward, post: 4428035, member: 50642"] I think having access to multiple power sources is something that should be paid for. I'd say that you choose one power source, and access to extra power sources should cost 1p each. This won't mess up your "recreate the classes" deal, since none of the classes use multiple sources as is. Then, say that anyone who chooses the Divine power source gains the ability to use a Holy Symbol as an implement, since that is a specific class feature. Using a divine power doesn't give you the ability to use Holy Symbols automatically, and the same goes for arcane powers and arcane implements. And anyone taking the Arcane power source gains the ability to use one arcane implement; Wand, Rod, Staff or Orb. Allow the ability to use other implements at the cost of 1p per implement. This allows you to take 2p off the cost of the Wizard, since it will cost 2p to get all three implements that the Wizard can use. You can remove Wizard Training, since you have the power source seperation above. And you can reduce the Cantrips to cost 1p each, instead of 5p for all of them, so you can take individual cantrips if you want. As for the Warlock, you should reduce the cost of the Pact Boon to 2p. For one, this puts the cost of the Warlock back to normal, since you now have to pay 1p to get both Wands and Rods like a normal Warlock. Second, you need Warlock's Curse just to have any use for Pact Boon, which should reduce the cost a bit anyway. I still don't think Ritual Casting and Spellbook should cost that much; they're not really that useful. I understand why you did it, but is exact replication of the classes, cost-wise, more important, or is balancing things by how useful they actually are more important? I personally think it's the latter, but it's your system, after all... [/QUOTE]
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