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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Meatboy" data-source="post: 5725453" data-attributes="member: 40857">For me defining classes is really a matter of task resolution. That is, how does a class go about solving problems in the game. For me then I see only 3 classes The Warrior, The Rogue and The Mage. The Warrior uses force of arms to solve in game problems. The kinds of arms may change, like what weapons or armor the warrior  uses or how they use them, but fundamentally it comes down to physical force. If the enemy confronts you, hit them. If the door is locked, bash it. If the prison won't listen to reason slap them around a bit. They are generally straight forward types and probably one of the "easiest" types to play. The Rogue uses their "skill" to solve in game problems. The skills they have change and determine how well they can overcome a challenge. If the door is locked, they can pick it, or maybe scale the wall and get in from another way, or perhaps they steal a key or maybe even convince someone to let them in. The rogue is only limited by their skills and the imagination of the player. Not that the warrior isn't capable of the same things it should just be easier for the rogue to pull off. Where they fall behind however is where the warrior shines and that is direct confrontation.  The Rogue type  can't really stand up and support themselves in battle. That's not their thing, in my eyes anyway, only if things have gone south should they end up operating in The Warrior's domain.The Mage uses their spells to solve problems. Its almost an instant win kind of power, provided of course that you have the right spell for the task.If the door is locked unlock it with magic, or charm the guard or teleport inside if you can. The mage ends up only being limited then by what spells they have access to and how often they can use them. This contrasts somewhat with the other two "classes" who can access their problem solving mechanic pretty much at will. The Mage ends up being exceptionally powerful in that he can overcome pretty much any problem provided that the spells he has match the problem. Pretty much all classes, in dnd at least, fall into one of these groups. They try to make them do it in different ways by giving certain perks or pushing them into niches.The exceptions are classes which are hybrids, such as the cleric. The Cleric is really just a fighter/mage. They get armor, and decent weapons and some magic giving them a few more ways to resolve in game issues.I feel this only applies to older style games( od&d to 3ed ). I agree with Lurkaway about 4e. The designers tried to make it so that all classes could solve problems either using force or skill, the instant win magic kind of got removed. Even though many classes "use magic" they seem to really just be another form of force, so I feel they don't distinguish themselves enough from the warrior in that respect.</blockquote>

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