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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 5725576" data-attributes="member: 11300">For me, I like the way how 4e split it in terms of sources although my preference is a slight adjustment of those.MartialRelating to ability derived from the character.DivineRelating to ability derived from the immortal realms.PrimalRelating to ability derived from the spiritual realms.ArcaneRelating to ability derived from cheating the physical laws of the multiverse.All characters have access to martial abilities, while the other three sources require a relationship with either the spiritual or divine, or the knowledge of how to bend the laws of the multiverse to your will.Using this as a basis, mixing these produces a few interesting ways of interpreting the 3e class structure (as that is what you are most familiar with as well as it is good to combine both editions meaningfully into a discussion).- Barbarian: A mix of martial and sometimes primal. I don't think berserker/rage abilities are always primal in nature although they can be. - Bard: A mix of martial and arcane (although I associate the bard more as a variation on the sorcerer).- Cleric: A mix of divine and martial with the priest at the divine end of the spectrum and the paladin at the other.- Druid: Primal with a possible mixing of martial.- Fighter: Martial all the way.- Monk: I don't really like monks actually, preferring to call them "Brothers", while stripping out the wuxia influences. In terms of this system though, I think you are looking at a mix of martial with one of the other sources.- Paladin: A classic mix of the divine and martial.- Ranger: I like the idea of the pure "martial" ranger (think Scout) as well as the primal/martial ranger.- Rogue: I see very little difference between a Rogue and a Fighter except that one primarily focuses on combat while the other primarily focuses on non-combat. Martial all the way.- Sorcerer:I see sorcerers as relating to the arcane through themselves (and thus combine arcane with martial). They have  taint upon their souls.- Wizard: Wizards however access magic through without, by studying and combining this with access to and controlling magical items such as wands, scrolls, spellbooks and the like.I think most of the 4e classes are an interesting take or specific variation of one or more of these. However, the one 4e class that stands out is:- Warlord: I prefer to think that the warlord if primarily martial. This is not to stop being influenced by one of the other three sources.So yeah. Just something a little different for you; my own take on how I would like things to be.Best RegardsHerremann the Wise</blockquote>

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