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Class: Martial Assassin, plus the Black Lotus discipline. (v2.0)
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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4128266" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>WoL (Weapons of legacy, I think is the name. not sure on the "L") are those weapons towards the back of ToB that have names, like the one for Iron Heart is Kamate. They offer unique benefits, sometimes spell-like abilities, sometimes daily uses of a certain maneuver, etc... but carry costs and require rituals to unlock. Barely familiar with them. Mostly just know about Kamate from when I was trying to justify my IH disciple Hobgoblin Warblade as a samurai.</p><p></p><p>Mind Blank: See, but that's the problem. The maneuver lets him determine he's being targeted by Detect Alignment <em>before</em> he initiates the maneuver! And it's worded so that he can't even use it (needlessly), because the specific spell is a requirement to use it. Would it be too strong at level one if it gave you as an immediate action (duration till the start of your next turn) all the protections of a Nondetection spell (CL = initiator level)?</p><p></p><p>Nerve Stab: I said <em>maybe</em> =P It seems balanced as is.</p><p></p><p>Bloodstainer: I actually think it'd be better to make it higher level, than to impose an arbitrary limit on it.</p><p></p><p>Relentless Strikes: Maybe I misread it. At first, I thought it meant you get a bonus SA for each you land. Now reading it again, guess it's just one extra, regardless. But...in the next round? How's that work, if the next round you aren't even in closing distance with them (like, they Dimension Door'd or something)? And what is it, exactly? An extra attack at your highest bonus? That MUST meet the requirements for sneak attacks? The idea I put forward before, doing the SA dice again the next round, was based off an existing "Ambush" feat ("official" name for SA feats now). Just seems simpler.</p><p></p><p>Fading Petal: I basically just meant I liked it.</p><p></p><p>Garrote: See, I was imagining the Shadow Garrote maneuver from SH, which actually wraps a line of shadow material around the victim's throat when picturing just how it's confering (half) silence for several rounds after. Your explanation works, too.</p><p></p><p>Tainted Blade: It's mostly confusing due to the ambiguity of "if the target was already poisoned..." Within the past minute? Day? By use of this maneuver? By me in general? By any other source of poison, like the party druid with wildshape? I think the boost is strong enough without that part anyway, and it's not like poisoning the person again is a <em>waste</em>, ability damage from poison stacks with multiple instances of poisoning, so I don't see the need for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 4128266, member: 35909"] WoL (Weapons of legacy, I think is the name. not sure on the "L") are those weapons towards the back of ToB that have names, like the one for Iron Heart is Kamate. They offer unique benefits, sometimes spell-like abilities, sometimes daily uses of a certain maneuver, etc... but carry costs and require rituals to unlock. Barely familiar with them. Mostly just know about Kamate from when I was trying to justify my IH disciple Hobgoblin Warblade as a samurai. Mind Blank: See, but that's the problem. The maneuver lets him determine he's being targeted by Detect Alignment [I]before[/I] he initiates the maneuver! And it's worded so that he can't even use it (needlessly), because the specific spell is a requirement to use it. Would it be too strong at level one if it gave you as an immediate action (duration till the start of your next turn) all the protections of a Nondetection spell (CL = initiator level)? Nerve Stab: I said [I]maybe[/I] =P It seems balanced as is. Bloodstainer: I actually think it'd be better to make it higher level, than to impose an arbitrary limit on it. Relentless Strikes: Maybe I misread it. At first, I thought it meant you get a bonus SA for each you land. Now reading it again, guess it's just one extra, regardless. But...in the next round? How's that work, if the next round you aren't even in closing distance with them (like, they Dimension Door'd or something)? And what is it, exactly? An extra attack at your highest bonus? That MUST meet the requirements for sneak attacks? The idea I put forward before, doing the SA dice again the next round, was based off an existing "Ambush" feat ("official" name for SA feats now). Just seems simpler. Fading Petal: I basically just meant I liked it. Garrote: See, I was imagining the Shadow Garrote maneuver from SH, which actually wraps a line of shadow material around the victim's throat when picturing just how it's confering (half) silence for several rounds after. Your explanation works, too. Tainted Blade: It's mostly confusing due to the ambiguity of "if the target was already poisoned..." Within the past minute? Day? By use of this maneuver? By me in general? By any other source of poison, like the party druid with wildshape? I think the boost is strong enough without that part anyway, and it's not like poisoning the person again is a [I]waste[/I], ability damage from poison stacks with multiple instances of poisoning, so I don't see the need for it. [/QUOTE]
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