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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 7056717" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>[MENTION=6874838]Senshi-shi[/MENTION] If you want a character able to take multiple sub-classes/archetypes from the same class (e.g. a Fighter who is both a Battle Master & a Purple Dragon Knight from <u>Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide</u>), you might take a page from the Dragon Age games. IIRC, those present the option of taking a second specialization at higher level. </p><p></p><p>Translating to D&D, it would be something like – assuming a Fighter – at higher level getting to choose another martial archetype and gaining its corresponding 3rd-level feature(s). Then you'd progress from there. An example...</p><p></p><p>Your Fighter PC becomes a Battle Master at 3rd level, gaining Combat Superiority & Student of War. At 7th level you gain Know Your Enemy. At 10th level you can either gain Improved Combat Superiority OR take a new martial archetype.</p><p></p><p>Let's say you take a new martial archetype – the Purple Dragon Knight. You do NOT gain Improved Combat Superiority. Instead you gain Rallying Cry.</p><p></p><p>When you reach 15th level, you can either now gain Improved Combat Superiority (the Battle Master's 10th level feature you previously forewent) OR Purple Envoy (the Purple Dragon Knight's 7th level feature).</p><p></p><p>Let's say you take Purple Envoy.</p><p></p><p>Then, advancing this system into epic-level play, as an Epic Boon you could choose to advance one of your martial archetypes to the next feature-granting level. For example, you might spend an Epic Boon to take Improved Combat Superiority OR Inspiring Surge (the Purple Dragon Knight's 10th level feature).</p><p></p><p>This system is a bit more conservative than what you're envisioning, but postpones any potential rules exploits between archetypes/sub-classes that were not playtested until epic-level play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 7056717, member: 20323"] [MENTION=6874838]Senshi-shi[/MENTION] If you want a character able to take multiple sub-classes/archetypes from the same class (e.g. a Fighter who is both a Battle Master & a Purple Dragon Knight from [U]Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide[/U]), you might take a page from the Dragon Age games. IIRC, those present the option of taking a second specialization at higher level. Translating to D&D, it would be something like – assuming a Fighter – at higher level getting to choose another martial archetype and gaining its corresponding 3rd-level feature(s). Then you'd progress from there. An example... Your Fighter PC becomes a Battle Master at 3rd level, gaining Combat Superiority & Student of War. At 7th level you gain Know Your Enemy. At 10th level you can either gain Improved Combat Superiority OR take a new martial archetype. Let's say you take a new martial archetype – the Purple Dragon Knight. You do NOT gain Improved Combat Superiority. Instead you gain Rallying Cry. When you reach 15th level, you can either now gain Improved Combat Superiority (the Battle Master's 10th level feature you previously forewent) OR Purple Envoy (the Purple Dragon Knight's 7th level feature). Let's say you take Purple Envoy. Then, advancing this system into epic-level play, as an Epic Boon you could choose to advance one of your martial archetypes to the next feature-granting level. For example, you might spend an Epic Boon to take Improved Combat Superiority OR Inspiring Surge (the Purple Dragon Knight's 10th level feature). This system is a bit more conservative than what you're envisioning, but postpones any potential rules exploits between archetypes/sub-classes that were not playtested until epic-level play. [/QUOTE]
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