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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 8008123" data-attributes="member: 1465">Great thread!My feelings are that 5e got the class/subclass/individual subdivision of abilities fairly right. Let's not forget the individual side of it! It's in the amount of levels where you can get an ASI/feat.Maybe some classes could have had 1 level more or less, at the expense/benefit of their subclasses, but it's quite minimal. In fact if I could change something retrospectively, it would be only the Bard: its subclasses only get 3 levels worth of abilities and it feels kinda thin...Part of me wished the level structure was identical for all classes i.e. the exact levels at which class/subclass/individual abilities are earned, but it's not a big deal (rather, I would have liked this only in order to occasionally try applying a subclass to another class).I agree with the others that variant class abilities have great potential to create variations and multiply character combinations, let's hope they are still on the design table.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 8008123, member: 1465"] Great thread! My feelings are that 5e got the class/subclass/individual subdivision of abilities fairly right. Let's not forget the individual side of it! It's in the amount of levels where you can get an ASI/feat. Maybe some classes could have had 1 level more or less, at the expense/benefit of their subclasses, but it's quite minimal. In fact if I could change something retrospectively, it would be only the Bard: its subclasses only get 3 levels worth of abilities and it feels kinda thin... Part of me wished the level structure was identical for all classes i.e. the exact levels at which class/subclass/individual abilities are earned, but it's not a big deal (rather, I would have liked this only in order to occasionally try applying a subclass to another class). I agree with the others that variant class abilities have great potential to create variations and multiply character combinations, let's hope they are still on the design table. [/QUOTE]

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