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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8008943" data-attributes="member: 63508">That's basically what I said. All the Ranger's power is in sublcasses, skills, and spells. And in the PHB, the Ranger suclasses and spells are too weak. They &quot;fixed&quot; Ranger subclasses in XGTE and UA. However the base class is weak. So much so that it has to bee on purpose. I don't know what Primeeval Awareness is and how it made it to the PHB. If anything it should have been getting a temporary FE/FT or a nature &quot;minifeat&quot; for X hours or something.The Paladin is similar. However it works because it's gimmick is more general. The Base Paladin is a warrior who smites and heals. Whereas the Base ranger is a warrior who sneaks and does Nature/Survival. Since Nature/Survival is niche and stealth is a bit uncommon, the base ranger being sneaky warrior ends up bad. And the Ranger ends up being a subclass class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8008943, member: 63508"] That's basically what I said. All the Ranger's power is in sublcasses, skills, and spells. And in the PHB, the Ranger suclasses and spells are too weak. They "fixed" Ranger subclasses in XGTE and UA. However the base class is weak. So much so that it has to bee on purpose.[B] I don't know what Primeeval Awareness is and how it made it to the PHB.[/B] If anything it should have been getting a temporary FE/FT or a nature "minifeat" for X hours or something. The Paladin is similar. However it works because it's gimmick is more general. The Base Paladin is a warrior who smites and heals. Whereas the Base ranger is a warrior who sneaks and does Nature/Survival. Since Nature/Survival is niche and stealth is a bit uncommon, the base ranger being sneaky warrior ends up bad. And the Ranger ends up being a subclass class. [/QUOTE]

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