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<blockquote data-quote="cooperflood" data-source="post: 4357769" data-attributes="member: 55481"><p>Cool concept, not completely neccessary but balanced none the less. Those multiclass feats are so powerful that almost every build eventually takes one, so this makes a nice alternative. Don't forsee WotC ever going this route though (too much overlap with Paragon classes), but who cares. One suggestion, you should replace the feat Specialized Power (Holy Paladin) with these three generic feats:</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="color: green">Novice Power </span></span><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: green">[Class Specialization Encounter]</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green"><strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Prerequisites: </span></strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Any class-specific specialization feat,</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="color: green">4th level</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green"><strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Benefit: </span></strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">You can swap one encounter attack power</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="color: green">you know for one encounter attack power of the same</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="color: green">level or lower from the class you specialized into.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Acolyte Power </span></span><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">[Class Specialization Utility]</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green"><strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Prerequisites: </span></strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Any class-specific specialization feat,</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green">8th level</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green"><strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Benefit: </span></strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">You can swap one utility power you know</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green">for one utility power of the same level or lower from</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green">the class you specialized in.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Adept Power </span><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 12px">[Class Specialization Daily]</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green"><strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Prerequisites: </span></strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Any class-specific specialization feat,</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green">10th level</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green"><strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Benefit: </span></strong><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">You can swap one daily attack power you</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green">know for one daily attack power of the same level or</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green">lower from the class you specialized in.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: white">These feats probably aren't worded perfectly but you get the general idea. The level prereqs are important balance wise and the format makes it easy to expand the concept into other classes. Some ideas off the top of my head include: </span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: white">Wizard: Illusionist (easy way to introduce the Illusionist Dragon supplement), Conjurer, Necromancer, ect..</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Rogue: Swashbuckler, Duelist, Master Thrower</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'DnDLolthSC-Regular'">Cleric: Healer, Cleric of X Deity</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cooperflood, post: 4357769, member: 55481"] Cool concept, not completely neccessary but balanced none the less. Those multiclass feats are so powerful that almost every build eventually takes one, so this makes a nice alternative. Don't forsee WotC ever going this route though (too much overlap with Paragon classes), but who cares. One suggestion, you should replace the feat Specialized Power (Holy Paladin) with these three generic feats: [COLOR=green][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][COLOR=green]Novice Power [/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][SIZE=3][COLOR=green][Class Specialization Encounter][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=green][B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Prerequisites: [/FONT][/B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Any class-specific specialization feat,[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][COLOR=green]4th level[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=green][B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Benefit: [/FONT][/B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]You can swap one encounter attack power[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][COLOR=green]you know for one encounter attack power of the same[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][COLOR=green]level or lower from the class you specialized into.[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=green][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][FONT=Times New Roman]Acolyte Power [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][Class Specialization Utility][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=green][B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Prerequisites: [/FONT][/B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Any class-specific specialization feat,[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=green]8th level[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=green][B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Benefit: [/FONT][/B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]You can swap one utility power you know[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=green]for one utility power of the same level or lower from[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=green]the class you specialized in.[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=green][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Adept Power [/FONT][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][SIZE=3][Class Specialization Daily][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=green][B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Prerequisites: [/FONT][/B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Any class-specific specialization feat,[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=green]10th level[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=green][B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Benefit: [/FONT][/B][FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]You can swap one daily attack power you[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=green]know for one daily attack power of the same level or[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=green]lower from the class you specialized in.[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=white]These feats probably aren't worded perfectly but you get the general idea. The level prereqs are important balance wise and the format makes it easy to expand the concept into other classes. Some ideas off the top of my head include: [/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=white]Wizard: Illusionist (easy way to introduce the Illusionist Dragon supplement), Conjurer, Necromancer, ect..[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Rogue: Swashbuckler, Duelist, Master Thrower[/FONT] [FONT=DnDLolthSC-Regular]Cleric: Healer, Cleric of X Deity[/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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