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<blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 9093756" data-attributes="member: 7034611">cannot really disagree with that, not sure that is a ringing endorsement of their test thoughnever did that, cannot be bothered, and WotC tells us not to pay attention to that anywayI looked at the high level stuff, do I like wildshape templates better, do I like unified progression across subclasses better, do I like getting rid of short rests, etc.These are all no-brainers to me, and the 5e alternative that does this, I will go with.Not once did I look at math, doesn’t mean others did not. That might very well be why we lost some stuff, people did not like the details, voted low and WotC threw it out instead of improving it, even though they liked the idea better than what we have now. One of the flaws of the test approachfirst of all, I will debate the larger quantities, and the fact that I will shows the weakness of the approachSecond, I am disappointed, esp because I do not believe the survey accurately measured what the players wanted. If I had confidence that this is indeed what the players want by a wide enough margin, I’d accept that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mamba, post: 9093756, member: 7034611"] cannot really disagree with that, not sure that is a ringing endorsement of their test though never did that, cannot be bothered, and WotC tells us not to pay attention to that anyway I looked at the high level stuff, do I like wildshape templates better, do I like unified progression across subclasses better, do I like getting rid of short rests, etc. These are all no-brainers to me, and the 5e alternative that does this, I will go with. Not once did I look at math, doesn’t mean others did not. That might very well be why we lost some stuff, people did not like the details, voted low and WotC threw it out instead of improving it, even though they liked the idea better than what we have now. One of the flaws of the test approach first of all, I will debate the larger quantities, and the fact that I will shows the weakness of the approach Second, I am disappointed, esp because I do not believe the survey accurately measured what the players wanted. If I had confidence that this is indeed what the players want by a wide enough margin, I’d accept that. [/QUOTE]

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