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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9093767" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>Using the wild shape templates referenced <strong>in the post you <em>partially</em> quoted</strong> as an example. Wotc did quite a bit to contribute to rejection confusion and frustrated negativity through inaction and lack of clarity. There's no question that the numbers in those templates themselves were completely unsuitable without significant changes to PC power rippling out through the other classes that we never saw. Even still though we've never really gotten clarification on <em>what</em> they were testing or how they planned to finesse/freeze the numbers to fit either way. Instead we had people supporting it because they were still angry about codzilla from a few editions ago and level 3-4ish bear druid performance in a 1-20 game against people not too comfortable with numbers they don't feel safe overlooking as mere work in progress stumbling.</p><p></p><p> The absence of something as simple as a quick tweet or momentary qualifying statement in one of the videos ensured that there were a large number of people in the dark with no option but to vote on a thing framed within unknowable assumptions while fighting over what assumptions should be made through the test.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9093767, member: 93670"] Using the wild shape templates referenced [B]in the post you [I]partially[/I] quoted[/B] as an example. Wotc did quite a bit to contribute to rejection confusion and frustrated negativity through inaction and lack of clarity. There's no question that the numbers in those templates themselves were completely unsuitable without significant changes to PC power rippling out through the other classes that we never saw. Even still though we've never really gotten clarification on [I]what[/I] they were testing or how they planned to finesse/freeze the numbers to fit either way. Instead we had people supporting it because they were still angry about codzilla from a few editions ago and level 3-4ish bear druid performance in a 1-20 game against people not too comfortable with numbers they don't feel safe overlooking as mere work in progress stumbling. The absence of something as simple as a quick tweet or momentary qualifying statement in one of the videos ensured that there were a large number of people in the dark with no option but to vote on a thing framed within unknowable assumptions while fighting over what assumptions should be made through the test. [/QUOTE]
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