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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9098087" data-attributes="member: 7635">They have been a little unclear about it. They have said that 60% is a failing grade, 70% gets looked at again, and 80% is good enough for inclusion. What is not clear is how they decide what fix they plan on implementing. Some things have gotten a second revision (ardling for example) while others have been dropped and reverted back to 2104. And as the test has gone on, the threshold of &quot;drop&quot; vs &quot;revise&quot; has become difficult to predict. So if I say I'm dissatisfied with something because I think it should do MORE, does that lower its % below 70% and it gets abandoned? That seems counterproductive. The other factor is, of course, if WotC has already decided what they intend to do with a given rule, our feedback is irrelevant. There is no amount of surveys responses that will give wild shape temp HP buckets again. We never got a vote on racial ASI. And I increasingly wonder if things like the subclass progression or spell lists were really based on player feedback and not an internal decision they are covering by saying &quot;well, it didn't excite the fans&quot; despite the fact we were never asked directly about either. I don't think it's controversial to say that if WotC really wanted any given change to pass, they'd damn the % and move it along. And as the playtest comes to an apex, increasingly the window for revisions will close so that it will become &quot;take it or leave it&quot; as choices.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 9098087, member: 7635"] They have been a little unclear about it. They have said that 60% is a failing grade, 70% gets looked at again, and 80% is good enough for inclusion. What is not clear is how they decide what fix they plan on implementing. Some things have gotten a second revision (ardling for example) while others have been dropped and reverted back to 2104. And as the test has gone on, the threshold of "drop" vs "revise" has become difficult to predict. So if I say I'm dissatisfied with something because I think it should do MORE, does that lower its % below 70% and it gets abandoned? That seems counterproductive. The other factor is, of course, if WotC has already decided what they intend to do with a given rule, our feedback is irrelevant. There is no amount of surveys responses that will give wild shape temp HP buckets again. We never got a vote on racial ASI. And I increasingly wonder if things like the subclass progression or spell lists were really based on player feedback and not an internal decision they are covering by saying "well, it didn't excite the fans" despite the fact we were never asked directly about either. I don't think it's controversial to say that if WotC really wanted any given change to pass, they'd damn the % and move it along. And as the playtest comes to an apex, increasingly the window for revisions will close so that it will become "take it or leave it" as choices. [/QUOTE]

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