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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9100128" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>But I did not vote to throw it out. Throwing it out was the result of the accumulated votes of tens of thousands of people. We do not even know if every single person voted "dissatisfied" if that would result in it being thrown out. You are GUESSING it would, but you do not know. </p><p></p><p>You keep trying to draw a straight line from "you chose this option" to "this is the result" but that line does not exist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>IT meant I was dissatisfied, and explained why. You are trying to layer on extra meanings to prove your point, without evidence.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How could they possibly be unaware of this flaw in the survey style they have been using for a decade, but you, just now, in these results, figured it out?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But there is plenty to determine that... it probably actually IS good, and you as a layperson without the expertise in the field likely simply do not have the context nor have witnessed the back-end processes to see why the data is actually really good? </p><p></p><p>Why would they use a flawed system for over a decade? How did you, as a layperson, uncover these flaws that the people they paid to do this work professionally, whose entire jobs and careers rely on making good surveys that get good data, did not notice or care about for this long?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If I agree there is a flaw, would it be a flaw? Well, that isn't begging the question is it? Yeah, I think we can also agree that if the survey led to serial killers targeting your family it would be a flaw in the system, right? </p><p></p><p>Now, here's the trick. Can you PROVE that even the majority of the TEN OF THOUSANDS of people have different understanding of the survey answers than WOTC? Can you even state, definitively and with evidence, what WoTC considers these answers to mean? Not what you assume they think, but actual evidence of their opinions? </p><p></p><p>All you might have been able to show, to date, is that it is reasonable to assume that some people might have misunderstood. Perhaps even the same number of people who voted multiple times? Are you aware that surveyors often take into account variance like this and likely the survey was designed with this in mind?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9100128, member: 6801228"] But I did not vote to throw it out. Throwing it out was the result of the accumulated votes of tens of thousands of people. We do not even know if every single person voted "dissatisfied" if that would result in it being thrown out. You are GUESSING it would, but you do not know. You keep trying to draw a straight line from "you chose this option" to "this is the result" but that line does not exist. IT meant I was dissatisfied, and explained why. You are trying to layer on extra meanings to prove your point, without evidence. How could they possibly be unaware of this flaw in the survey style they have been using for a decade, but you, just now, in these results, figured it out? But there is plenty to determine that... it probably actually IS good, and you as a layperson without the expertise in the field likely simply do not have the context nor have witnessed the back-end processes to see why the data is actually really good? Why would they use a flawed system for over a decade? How did you, as a layperson, uncover these flaws that the people they paid to do this work professionally, whose entire jobs and careers rely on making good surveys that get good data, did not notice or care about for this long? If I agree there is a flaw, would it be a flaw? Well, that isn't begging the question is it? Yeah, I think we can also agree that if the survey led to serial killers targeting your family it would be a flaw in the system, right? Now, here's the trick. Can you PROVE that even the majority of the TEN OF THOUSANDS of people have different understanding of the survey answers than WOTC? Can you even state, definitively and with evidence, what WoTC considers these answers to mean? Not what you assume they think, but actual evidence of their opinions? All you might have been able to show, to date, is that it is reasonable to assume that some people might have misunderstood. Perhaps even the same number of people who voted multiple times? Are you aware that surveyors often take into account variance like this and likely the survey was designed with this in mind? [/QUOTE]
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