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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9106272" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Demonstrating some of those&nbsp; examples might be helpful, but, logically, people DID know that if something scored less than 50% then it wouldn't get iterated on more. Because WoTC told us that directly. Does voting &quot;disapprove&quot; mean something will get less than 50%? We don't know that. You can make assumptions, you can guess, you can try and divine the tea leaves, but until you have WoTCs internal data, you don't know that. Maybe those things hit less than 50% because many people voted &quot;Greatly Disapprove&quot; and WANTED it killed. Templates for Wildshape was like that. I wanted it iterated on, but many people despised it. I can't prove that they didn't simply outnumber me. You are trying to connect singular votes to the final result, but that simply doesn't work. Some people voted Greatly Disapprove and ranted in their comments about how terrible the Cleric Divine Order was... and it went through and was iterated on. Some people voted Greatly Disapprove on Weapon Mastery's, and we know those are guaranteed to make it into the 2024 PHB. You can't draw these lines the way you want to to &quot;prove&quot; the survey isn't working. And, finally, you are assuming that WoTC was asking &quot;Would you like to see a revised version of X?&quot; AND that people were answering expecting&nbsp; &quot;Would you like to see a revised version of X?&quot; to be the question. Which are also two different things, and not necessarily true. I certainly approached each question from the viewpoint of &quot;what do I think of this being in the final book&quot; which is a 3rd very different question</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9106272, member: 6801228"] Demonstrating some of those examples might be helpful, but, logically, people DID know that if something scored less than 50% then it wouldn't get iterated on more. Because WoTC told us that directly. Does voting "disapprove" mean something will get less than 50%? We don't know that. You can make assumptions, you can guess, you can try and divine the tea leaves, but until you have WoTCs internal data, you don't know that. Maybe those things hit less than 50% because many people voted "Greatly Disapprove" and WANTED it killed. Templates for Wildshape was like that. I wanted it iterated on, but many people despised it. I can't prove that they didn't simply outnumber me. You are trying to connect singular votes to the final result, but that simply doesn't work. Some people voted Greatly Disapprove and ranted in their comments about how terrible the Cleric Divine Order was... and it went through and was iterated on. Some people voted Greatly Disapprove on Weapon Mastery's, and we know those are guaranteed to make it into the 2024 PHB. You can't draw these lines the way you want to to "prove" the survey isn't working. And, finally, you are assuming that WoTC was asking "Would you like to see a revised version of X?" AND that people were answering expecting "Would you like to see a revised version of X?" to be the question. Which are also two different things, and not necessarily true. I certainly approached each question from the viewpoint of "what do I think of this being in the final book" which is a 3rd very different question [/QUOTE]

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