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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 9107444" data-attributes="member: 7034611">if I ever get a straight answer to my questions from you, I will tell you. We have had this dance around the 70% and 80% thresholds for at least 5 rounds by now, and still no definitive answer. That in itself feels pretty telling.What is binary is 'threshold', not 'requires'. That is very much the definition of thresholdI grant you that WotC is not even good at sticking to their own thresholds, but even so, there is not just the 'pass, you are in' threshold. Why is there a second, lower threshold?if by 'yet here we are' you mean 'and yet I am unable to answer this after having been asked 5 times', then I agreeApart from that, no one is talking about deceiving, incompetence is not deception</blockquote>