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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9130879" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>but the sociology can be achieved by the method WoTC is using, because it uses a form of math that accounts for things like "not every human being conceives of things in an identical manner" And therefore those percentages CAN be reached with the method WoTC is using, because they have been reached for decades by multiple different organizations.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They are not assigning arbitrary percentages to each category. That is a something you made up because you cannot conceive of any other explanation of how they are doing their work. </p><p></p><p>This is the fundamental problem. You insist they must be doing something wrong, despite having no evidence they are doing that thing. Because you, a layman with no expertise, cannot think of any other way to do it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You literally say they can't do something... then show them doing it. </p><p></p><p>And yes, if something only reaches 67%, then it doesn't reach 70%. HOWEVER, 67% doesn't get thrown in the trash. They WILL make another incarnation of it, <strong><em>BECAUSE THEY BLOODY TOLD US THEY WOULD DO THAT</em></strong>! Seriously, 70% is the keep range, 60% is the "has problems but can be salvaged" range. How am I supposed to believe you cracked the code to show how foolishly wrong-headed WoTC is when you can't even get their actual positions correct?!</p><p></p><p>And want do you mean by accurately? Seriously, what is accurately to you? Because they can trivially get within a +/- 3 with the size of their sample. Because my calculator wasn't about the questions, it was about sample size compared to population size and how they demonstrates your likely variance of error. </p><p></p><p>Your issue is you think it is impossible for WoTC to read their own data, because they are just making things up out of thin air. Yes, this simple, free basic version of a Lykert Scale doesn't show exactly what WoTC is doing. But don't you think that a company that does these professionally and offers their services to a company like Hasbro has more advanced versions of this? It is like looking at Windows Notepad and declaring Microsoft Word cannot possibly have templates, because Notepad doesn't demonstrate that technology.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They modified it. Who do you think did that? Maybe a... survey company? People whose professional lives revolves around the creation and implementation of surveys? </p><p></p><p>I offered you an example, from a free site, I never thought it was going to match 1 to 1, but to demonstrate how common a tool it was and how it is used for exactly the type of data collection WoTC is using it for. Yes, they likely have modified it, but just because it was modified doesn't mean it is suddenly worthless and broken. If it did, they wouldn't have hired a company to make those modifications!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9130879, member: 6801228"] but the sociology can be achieved by the method WoTC is using, because it uses a form of math that accounts for things like "not every human being conceives of things in an identical manner" And therefore those percentages CAN be reached with the method WoTC is using, because they have been reached for decades by multiple different organizations. They are not assigning arbitrary percentages to each category. That is a something you made up because you cannot conceive of any other explanation of how they are doing their work. This is the fundamental problem. You insist they must be doing something wrong, despite having no evidence they are doing that thing. Because you, a layman with no expertise, cannot think of any other way to do it. You literally say they can't do something... then show them doing it. And yes, if something only reaches 67%, then it doesn't reach 70%. HOWEVER, 67% doesn't get thrown in the trash. They WILL make another incarnation of it, [B][I]BECAUSE THEY BLOODY TOLD US THEY WOULD DO THAT[/I][/B]! Seriously, 70% is the keep range, 60% is the "has problems but can be salvaged" range. How am I supposed to believe you cracked the code to show how foolishly wrong-headed WoTC is when you can't even get their actual positions correct?! And want do you mean by accurately? Seriously, what is accurately to you? Because they can trivially get within a +/- 3 with the size of their sample. Because my calculator wasn't about the questions, it was about sample size compared to population size and how they demonstrates your likely variance of error. Your issue is you think it is impossible for WoTC to read their own data, because they are just making things up out of thin air. Yes, this simple, free basic version of a Lykert Scale doesn't show exactly what WoTC is doing. But don't you think that a company that does these professionally and offers their services to a company like Hasbro has more advanced versions of this? It is like looking at Windows Notepad and declaring Microsoft Word cannot possibly have templates, because Notepad doesn't demonstrate that technology. They modified it. Who do you think did that? Maybe a... survey company? People whose professional lives revolves around the creation and implementation of surveys? I offered you an example, from a free site, I never thought it was going to match 1 to 1, but to demonstrate how common a tool it was and how it is used for exactly the type of data collection WoTC is using it for. Yes, they likely have modified it, but just because it was modified doesn't mean it is suddenly worthless and broken. If it did, they wouldn't have hired a company to make those modifications! [/QUOTE]
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