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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9131004" data-attributes="member: 6801228">And those same surveys have been used to make corporations hundreds of millions of dollars. Yes, it turns out polling people in a constantly shifting situation like a presidential election can end up being wrong. They aren't omniscient. But if they are so horrifically inaccurate to be worthless, then they wouldn't be used by companies as market research to determine how to make more money. And guess what! People with a college education and decades of experience in a field know that guessing numbers is going to make you wrong too! That's why they don't arbitrarily guess numbers, and instead of methods to determine those numbers that are actually more accurate. You said they can't get percentages of broad categories, then make a single percentage from that. Then you talked about them doing just that. Seriously, stop assuming people are idiots and you are the only intelligent man in the world. The people who do these surveys and collect this data aren't fools who don't understand math.It isn't about technically incorrect numbers, it is about continual misunderstandings. You and Mamba both have made statements about WoTC or Crawford, that have been factually incorrect. You both continue to make assumptions and assertions based upon these fallacies, then act indignant when I point out that you are wrong. But fine, I will fix your example for you. WoTC has determined that a single feature of a single subclass rated a total of 57%, therefore they will abandon it. Now, somehow you think that that 57% data ONLY includes half their data set. It... it doesn't. It isn't just made of the people who voted Satisfied and Very Satisfied. They determine that 57% using the entirety of their data set. So, that is a second part of your example that is flawed. But, your point is that by creating that 57% they have "no idea" how many people might have wanted them to give the feature a second chance by redoing it again. And, I suppose you are technically correct. After all, WoTC isn't asking that question. They also don't know how many people would prefer a 2d10 system over a 1d20 system. Because they aren't asking that question. They asked "do you like it". They didn't ask, "Should we try and make it better". So, you are correct, they don't have accurate data on how many people want them to make features better. That isn't the goal of the survey. So, yet again, you have demonstrated that you don't understand the actual process, because if you did, you wouldn't act like information they didn't ask for is somehow a slam dunk that they aren't getting the information they asked for.No, they aren't. They aren't trying to get numbers not intended. They are getting the numbers, then they are USING those numbers to determine policy. You have to separate the two. WoTC isn't making a survey to ask people how much they want them to edit and iterate on features. They are making a survey to ask people how much they like the features presented. Then utilizing that data to make determinations on their next steps.</blockquote>

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