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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9132185" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>They aren't taking random samples from all the different kinds of players in all the different ways the game is played. They are sampling only those people who go online and want to partake in the survey. Self-selected passionate surveyors don't represent the bulk of their players who are casual. They are bungling it here.</p><p></p><p>This one is decent. I don't think the questions themselves have a lot of bias. They're just being used incorrectly to get a resulting percentage that is inherently off base.</p><p></p><p>Yes. They are bungling this one as well. there are often 12-15 of the same exact question over and over. Feat #1, Feat #1, Feat #3..... Feat #15. Spell #1...</p><p></p><p>This one I don't know about, but then I didn't say that they were messing them all up.</p><p></p><p>Aware of outliers isn't what it's talking about man. It doesn't matter if they are well aware of the outliers if they are ignoring them. It's saying that the outliers can deliver the most important information and WotC has said that they ignore the outliers every time. We know this because if something hits 80%, the outliers be damned. Same with 70%. They are messing this one up.</p><p></p><p>You have to be joking. Crawford said straight out that they were doing this. He went on camera and said that they are putting in questions knowing or having a very good idea of how it will turn out before they ask the question and were just looking for confirmation. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤦♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f926-2642.png" title="Man facepalming :man_facepalming:" data-shortname=":man_facepalming:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p><p></p><p>No. That's the error you are making in assuming that the surveys are the reason the game is doing well.</p><p></p><p>No. They made multiple mistakes.</p><p></p><p>Are you deliberately acting this way? Because playtests is a plural word. How about you go look at all 7 and see if things are remaining stable?</p><p></p><p>Then do it. Show me how you can get an exact rating of 80% satisfaction by doing the math of 1000 people said they were very satisfied, 583 people said they were satisfied, 1200 said they were unsatisfied, and 188 said they were very unsatisfied. Do that math and come up with an exact satisfaction percentage that includes all of those voters.</p><p></p><p>I'm betting that you're going to ignore the subjectivity in ratings such that you could be satisfied by a rating of 66% but I might be satisfied at 61%.</p><p></p><p>I'll wait for you to show me above that it is possible.</p><p></p><p>If they are asking direct questions that don't include reworking the ability, and you are correct that they are not indirectly asking that, then they can't possibly get a correct answer for when to rework an ability, because they don't have any information at all from us saying that we want it reworked. They are just making unfounded assumptions.</p><p></p><p>Edit: turned causal into casual, because, well...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9132185, member: 23751"] They aren't taking random samples from all the different kinds of players in all the different ways the game is played. They are sampling only those people who go online and want to partake in the survey. Self-selected passionate surveyors don't represent the bulk of their players who are casual. They are bungling it here. This one is decent. I don't think the questions themselves have a lot of bias. They're just being used incorrectly to get a resulting percentage that is inherently off base. Yes. They are bungling this one as well. there are often 12-15 of the same exact question over and over. Feat #1, Feat #1, Feat #3..... Feat #15. Spell #1... This one I don't know about, but then I didn't say that they were messing them all up. Aware of outliers isn't what it's talking about man. It doesn't matter if they are well aware of the outliers if they are ignoring them. It's saying that the outliers can deliver the most important information and WotC has said that they ignore the outliers every time. We know this because if something hits 80%, the outliers be damned. Same with 70%. They are messing this one up. You have to be joking. Crawford said straight out that they were doing this. He went on camera and said that they are putting in questions knowing or having a very good idea of how it will turn out before they ask the question and were just looking for confirmation. 🤦♂️ No. That's the error you are making in assuming that the surveys are the reason the game is doing well. No. They made multiple mistakes. Are you deliberately acting this way? Because playtests is a plural word. How about you go look at all 7 and see if things are remaining stable? Then do it. Show me how you can get an exact rating of 80% satisfaction by doing the math of 1000 people said they were very satisfied, 583 people said they were satisfied, 1200 said they were unsatisfied, and 188 said they were very unsatisfied. Do that math and come up with an exact satisfaction percentage that includes all of those voters. I'm betting that you're going to ignore the subjectivity in ratings such that you could be satisfied by a rating of 66% but I might be satisfied at 61%. I'll wait for you to show me above that it is possible. If they are asking direct questions that don't include reworking the ability, and you are correct that they are not indirectly asking that, then they can't possibly get a correct answer for when to rework an ability, because they don't have any information at all from us saying that we want it reworked. They are just making unfounded assumptions. Edit: turned causal into casual, because, well... [/QUOTE]
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