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<blockquote data-quote="mach1.9pants" data-source="post: 4065876" data-attributes="member: 55946"><p>I have been thinking about how Class Training feats work after the Rogue &. </p><p>Now I guess that at each level each class has an equal amount of at will, per encounter and per day powers. </p><p></p><p>e.g. Rogue:</p><p>"Suggested At-Will Powers: Piercing Strike, Riposte Strike</p><p>Suggested Encounter Power: Torturous Strike</p><p>Suggested Daily Power: Easy Target"</p><p></p><p>e.g. Wizard:</p><p>"I’ll take magic missile and fireblast for my at-will powers. Oh! Burning hands for an encounter power, and, let’s see, sleep for my daily."</p><p></p><p>And they should all be balanced with each other. This would logically suggest to me that a class training feat would give you access to an equivalent power of another class <strong>instead of your own</strong>. The increase in flexibility is off set by using a feat to get it. So my first level rogue could use his feat to get magic missile as an at will power rather than piercing strike or riposte strike.</p><p>All well and good. However what happens as I level up, I would imagine that, similar to B09S manoovers-no I can never spell it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />- and similar to current non-spontaneous spellcasters, I will have:</p><p>1. A limit to the number of powers I can know in total.</p><p>2. The ability to swap lower level powers for higher as I level up.</p><p>3. (Maybe) a limit to the number of powers I can have readied/prepared/whatever at one time. True or not, this is irrelevant to my point <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>So what happens to that level one Wiz power I have when I am at 10th (or whatever) level? Will I be able to swap it for another, higher level Wiz power in the same way I could swap it or another for a higher level Rogue power.</p><p>Or is it going to become obsolete, and a waste of a feat?</p><p></p><p>Thoughts?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mach1.9pants, post: 4065876, member: 55946"] I have been thinking about how Class Training feats work after the Rogue &. Now I guess that at each level each class has an equal amount of at will, per encounter and per day powers. e.g. Rogue: "Suggested At-Will Powers: Piercing Strike, Riposte Strike Suggested Encounter Power: Torturous Strike Suggested Daily Power: Easy Target" e.g. Wizard: "I’ll take magic missile and fireblast for my at-will powers. Oh! Burning hands for an encounter power, and, let’s see, sleep for my daily." And they should all be balanced with each other. This would logically suggest to me that a class training feat would give you access to an equivalent power of another class [b]instead of your own[/b]. The increase in flexibility is off set by using a feat to get it. So my first level rogue could use his feat to get magic missile as an at will power rather than piercing strike or riposte strike. All well and good. However what happens as I level up, I would imagine that, similar to B09S manoovers-no I can never spell it ;)- and similar to current non-spontaneous spellcasters, I will have: 1. A limit to the number of powers I can know in total. 2. The ability to swap lower level powers for higher as I level up. 3. (Maybe) a limit to the number of powers I can have readied/prepared/whatever at one time. True or not, this is irrelevant to my point ;) So what happens to that level one Wiz power I have when I am at 10th (or whatever) level? Will I be able to swap it for another, higher level Wiz power in the same way I could swap it or another for a higher level Rogue power. Or is it going to become obsolete, and a waste of a feat? Thoughts? [/QUOTE]
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