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<blockquote data-quote="Stuntman" data-source="post: 4973322" data-attributes="member: 84817">Yeah.&nbsp; I started as a fighter and then took the multiclassed wizard feat that gave me Thunderwave as an encounter power.&nbsp; I'm still at low levels, but plan to take more close blast or close burst powers.&nbsp; Mechanically, I find that a fighter/wizard works much better than a wizard/fighter.&nbsp; Adding wizard abilities to a full fledged fighter is easier as long as you try to use close attack powers since you are in melee most of the time.&nbsp;I cannot see it working the other way around.&nbsp; Some combos just doesn't seem to be viable.&nbsp; If you are a wizard, you are most likely the character who needs to be protected.&nbsp; If you add a bit of fighter, you're basically making the enemy hit you even more than they want to in the first place.&nbsp;I think its the nature of trying to combine two different classes together that causes the end result to vary greatly depending on the combo.&nbsp; With multiclassing, the order is important as well.&nbsp; I don't know if it would be possible to ensure that there are no weak combos and no broken combos when designing a system to combine two classes together in a class-based system.&nbsp;&nbsp;I think that they can improve upon both multiclassing and hybrids.&nbsp; So far, the two hybrid characters I have seen seem to fair pretty well compared to single classed characters.&nbsp; I'm fairly happy with hybrids from what I have seen and from what I have heard.&nbsp; Multiclassing can use more of an improvement.&nbsp;I'm not too excited about Melee Training as it only applies to basic attacks.&nbsp; Many melee class powers that do not count as basic attacks will not benefit from this feat.&nbsp;The bard I find is rather limiting.&nbsp; If I want to multiclass as two different classes, I do not want to have to be a bard first and then take two multiclass feats.&nbsp; Combat Virtuoso is really needed for a bard because he may end up multiclassing to more than one other class and thus without the feat would need more than two attack stats.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stuntman, post: 4973322, member: 84817"] Yeah. I started as a fighter and then took the multiclassed wizard feat that gave me Thunderwave as an encounter power. I'm still at low levels, but plan to take more close blast or close burst powers. Mechanically, I find that a fighter/wizard works much better than a wizard/fighter. Adding wizard abilities to a full fledged fighter is easier as long as you try to use close attack powers since you are in melee most of the time. I cannot see it working the other way around. Some combos just doesn't seem to be viable. If you are a wizard, you are most likely the character who needs to be protected. If you add a bit of fighter, you're basically making the enemy hit you even more than they want to in the first place. I think its the nature of trying to combine two different classes together that causes the end result to vary greatly depending on the combo. With multiclassing, the order is important as well. I don't know if it would be possible to ensure that there are no weak combos and no broken combos when designing a system to combine two classes together in a class-based system. I think that they can improve upon both multiclassing and hybrids. So far, the two hybrid characters I have seen seem to fair pretty well compared to single classed characters. I'm fairly happy with hybrids from what I have seen and from what I have heard. Multiclassing can use more of an improvement. I'm not too excited about Melee Training as it only applies to basic attacks. Many melee class powers that do not count as basic attacks will not benefit from this feat. The bard I find is rather limiting. If I want to multiclass as two different classes, I do not want to have to be a bard first and then take two multiclass feats. Combat Virtuoso is really needed for a bard because he may end up multiclassing to more than one other class and thus without the feat would need more than two attack stats. [/QUOTE]

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