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<blockquote data-quote="Dan'L" data-source="post: 4974543" data-attributes="member: 68954">Yes, but just because you explained what you meant doesn't make it meaningful or useful.&nbsp; Let's review; you said:Since EVERY class can already melee with an MBA, and the feat in question only increases accuracy with MBAs, it does not add anything to that class' performance that could truly be considered multi-classing.I think part of the problem here is that you've yet to condense a useful, usable definition for what you feel multi-classing should encompass.&nbsp; So, let me give it a stab:Multi-classing is picking up definitive traits from a class other than your base class.Since the ability to make a melee basic attack or a ranged basic attack, effectively or otherwise, is by no fair means definitive of any class.&nbsp; Would you consider a Figher taking Skill Training in Thievery to be a feat that is &quot;shoring up multiclassing&quot; since it lets them be more effective at it, like a Rogue?&nbsp; Or similarly ST in Religion because it makes them more Cleric-y?&nbsp; At some point, you've got to realize that some feat choices for increased effectiveness are just that, and not something that was made as a crutch for what you view as a weak system for multi-classing.&nbsp; Just because you found that the pickled beets made for an unsatisfying meal doesn't mean that the chocolate mousse was crafted to make up for it.-Dan'L</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dan'L, post: 4974543, member: 68954"] Yes, but just because you explained what you meant doesn't make it meaningful or useful. Let's review; you said: Since EVERY class can already melee with an MBA, and the feat in question only increases accuracy with MBAs, it does not add anything to that class' performance that could truly be considered multi-classing. I think part of the problem here is that you've yet to condense a useful, usable definition for what you feel multi-classing should encompass. So, let me give it a stab: Multi-classing is picking up definitive traits from a class other than your base class. Since the ability to make a melee basic attack or a ranged basic attack, effectively or otherwise, is by no fair means definitive of any class. Would you consider a Figher taking Skill Training in Thievery to be a feat that is "shoring up multiclassing" since it lets them be more effective at it, like a Rogue? Or similarly ST in Religion because it makes them more Cleric-y? At some point, you've got to realize that some feat choices for increased effectiveness are just that, and not something that was made as a crutch for what you view as a weak system for multi-classing. Just because you found that the pickled beets made for an unsatisfying meal doesn't mean that the chocolate mousse was crafted to make up for it. -Dan'L [/QUOTE]

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