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<blockquote data-quote="Raduin711" data-source="post: 4071742" data-attributes="member: 15303">3e rogues had required skills too.&nbsp; They just had to buy them with skill points instead of getting them for free.&nbsp; Search and disable device, for example, are so necessary to party survival that they are essentially required.&nbsp; It's nice that we are getting them for free now.&nbsp; As for the weapons, we don't know enough about how we buy weapon proficiencies to say whether or not the rogue's selection of weapons is narrow.&nbsp; And sneak attack is restricted in weapon choice, just like before.&nbsp; Plus ca change...I still say it's only a preview.&nbsp; The class is going to appear narrow when we only have a narrow view of it.Also consider that the rogue gets 10 skills total, not 6.&nbsp; Theivery, stealth, any four skills, and four from a list.&nbsp; Perhaps even more, if you get more skills for your inteligence bonus.&nbsp; (perhaps they haven't mentioned it because every character gets it, kind of like languages in 3rd edition... the extra skills are a benefit of your intelligence, not your class, so it isn't mentioned in the class.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raduin711, post: 4071742, member: 15303"] 3e rogues had required skills too. They just had to buy them with skill points instead of getting them for free. Search and disable device, for example, are so necessary to party survival that they are essentially required. It's nice that we are getting them for free now. As for the weapons, we don't know enough about how we buy weapon proficiencies to say whether or not the rogue's selection of weapons is narrow. And sneak attack is restricted in weapon choice, just like before. Plus ca change... I still say it's only a preview. The class is going to appear narrow when we only have a narrow view of it. Also consider that the rogue gets 10 skills total, not 6. Theivery, stealth, any four skills, and four from a list. Perhaps even more, if you get more skills for your inteligence bonus. (perhaps they haven't mentioned it because every character gets it, kind of like languages in 3rd edition... the extra skills are a benefit of your intelligence, not your class, so it isn't mentioned in the class.) [/QUOTE]

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