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Message: <blockquote data-quote="franzel" data-source="post: 4071884" data-attributes="member: 14808">What are you looking for the smart rogue to do?  And in which previous editions do you feel that your concept of the smart rogue was given justice?  I'm just curious as a basis for comparison.In 3e/3.5, smart rogues were just that.  Smart.  Smart rogues were skill-based characters.  They had a high INT, which gave them more skill points and they were better at the INT-based skills.  Out of six 10th+ level powers, one had to do with skills: Skill Mastery.So far in 4e, the only indication we have how INT will apply to Rogues is the line in Races & Classes where Mike Mearls said that rogues would add their INT bonus to all skill checks so that's certainly an indication that they value the "smart," skilled rogue.  We do not know if a high INT provides more starting skills, independent of class.And for prestige classes, there are a few classes like the Spymaster or the Virtuoso (or the skill trick PrCs from Complete Scoundrel).  I think the primary function of a SMART rogue, at least to me, is as a master of disguise and multiple identities.  In 3.5, there weren't any great, well-integrated attempts. For 4e, it would almost certainly have to tie into the social combat system which we won't see until the books are out (or at least that's what WotC has said).  For all we know, there will be the concept of a Trick attack (a la Torg).A master of disguise-type rogue _could_ be handled as a paragon path, but that's pure speculation.  We have no evidence one way or the other.In 2e or 1e, I don't think the concept was catered to at all.</blockquote>

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