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<blockquote data-quote="Giant2005" data-source="post: 6825414" data-attributes="member: 6813615"><p>As for the class ratings way back on page 1, they seem really, really misjudged to me. That lack of judgment is exasperated by the fact that the supposed intention was to rate the classes at the more relevant lower levels, but as you can tell from all of the caster classes making the top ranks, it was obviously evaluated from the perspective of the higher levels.</p><p></p><p>At lower levels, only two full caster classes could be considered competent: The Bard for being a skill monkey and inspiration and the Warlock for having decent damage while still having a spell slot or two for utility purposes. The rest of the casters will do sucky cantrip damage and have too few spell slots to do much of anything other than sucky cantrip damage. That is the opinion of someone who plays a lot of casters but does so quite knowingly that he sucks in the early game but is willing to take that hit for the late game potential.</p><p></p><p>As for everything else, the Beastmaster is easily tier 1 at low levels. A fair case can even be made for it being the best class bar none at that point - at high levels the BM has damage comparable to the highest dpr classes but that is only after the other classes have been able to make up the difference by taking feats. At low levels feats are incredibly rare and the other martial classes simply haven't been able to close the gap yet. The companion's survivability is comparatively greater at that moment too as although it gets fairly squishy in the late game, the difference is negligeable in the early game.</p><p></p><p>Rating the Oathbreaker to be lower than the other Paladins and declaring that was because of a lack of offense is incredibly strange considering that the Oathbreaker has the greatest offensive powers of all of the Paladin subclasses.</p><p></p><p>The final piece of strangeness is how the Wizard subclasses were rated between one another. The Abjurer and Transmuter are absolutely terrible at low levels and the Enchanter is amazing. The Enchanter solves the issue of not having enough spell slots to do anything of consequence other than spamming crappy cantrip damage by having an amazing low level ability to use. Hypnotic Gaze is spammable just like a cantrip, but unlike a cantrip, it is immensely powerful - easily powerful enough to turn a losing battle into a winning one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Giant2005, post: 6825414, member: 6813615"] As for the class ratings way back on page 1, they seem really, really misjudged to me. That lack of judgment is exasperated by the fact that the supposed intention was to rate the classes at the more relevant lower levels, but as you can tell from all of the caster classes making the top ranks, it was obviously evaluated from the perspective of the higher levels. At lower levels, only two full caster classes could be considered competent: The Bard for being a skill monkey and inspiration and the Warlock for having decent damage while still having a spell slot or two for utility purposes. The rest of the casters will do sucky cantrip damage and have too few spell slots to do much of anything other than sucky cantrip damage. That is the opinion of someone who plays a lot of casters but does so quite knowingly that he sucks in the early game but is willing to take that hit for the late game potential. As for everything else, the Beastmaster is easily tier 1 at low levels. A fair case can even be made for it being the best class bar none at that point - at high levels the BM has damage comparable to the highest dpr classes but that is only after the other classes have been able to make up the difference by taking feats. At low levels feats are incredibly rare and the other martial classes simply haven't been able to close the gap yet. The companion's survivability is comparatively greater at that moment too as although it gets fairly squishy in the late game, the difference is negligeable in the early game. Rating the Oathbreaker to be lower than the other Paladins and declaring that was because of a lack of offense is incredibly strange considering that the Oathbreaker has the greatest offensive powers of all of the Paladin subclasses. The final piece of strangeness is how the Wizard subclasses were rated between one another. The Abjurer and Transmuter are absolutely terrible at low levels and the Enchanter is amazing. The Enchanter solves the issue of not having enough spell slots to do anything of consequence other than spamming crappy cantrip damage by having an amazing low level ability to use. Hypnotic Gaze is spammable just like a cantrip, but unlike a cantrip, it is immensely powerful - easily powerful enough to turn a losing battle into a winning one. [/QUOTE]
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