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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6180907" data-attributes="member: 2525">I thought that became the standard rule."Because" isn't a reason at all.  And, I am trying to figure out if it's just tradition, or something else.  If it's purely tradition, then I am not sure why it's risen to this level of importance with some people.A lot have already been given, but much of it comes down to streamlining, and fewer sources of magic means you don't need to run concurrent by separate rules for two different sources when there is already tons of overlap between the two. That's not arbitrary.I think you should split it when you have a clear distinction.  Divine vs. Non-Divine is a clear distinction.  I'm not seeing the distinction between the amorphous arcane and the equally amorphous psionic.  I keep asking, but it so far seems to come down to tradition and what the best defenders of the split admit to be a fine and vague difference that's hard to explain.We've been through this. It IS the definition. Unless you can explain another one.This is yet another "It's different because!" and "It's tradition".That was already explained above, and inherent in "intermediary".  I don't think anyone has trouble with druids being divine, with nature as the intermediary between deities and the world.If Sorcerers obtain their source of power from an inherent genetic ability to spontaneously cast spells, WHY is that different from Psions?  See if you can answer that question without saying "Because it's different", or "Because past editions said so".  What's the REASON it's different?Because they're really just sorcerers.  IE, they are spontaneous casters rather than studied ones.Nope. Clerics use deity-magic, and don't memorize spells from books. Arcane /= divine because divine is sourced to deities and arcane is not.  That IS a difference.  It's not a "because" answer, and it's not a "tradition" answer, it's an actual reason.The question is, why are psions not sorcerers? Discard wizards - wizards are not spontaneous casters.  So, why are they not sorcerers?</blockquote>

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