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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6275706" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>Besides the fact that in previous editions both Sorcerers and Bards used Charisma to determine spells DC and bonus spells, I don't actually see much similarities between the two. I'm rather inclined to think that people expect them to cast spells similarly, only because they did in previous editions.</p><p></p><p>If I have to say which other spellcaster the Bards feel closest to, IMHO it has to be the Wizard. I don't see the reason why Bards' spells would be an innate ability like Sorcerers. That they might get them from some otherworldly patron or deity could be possible, but being tied to a religion or pact is not really a Bard thing AFAIK.</p><p></p><p>That leaves the "learn by study" option as the most plausible. Bards are already keepers of lore and often described as wandering the world. Maybe they don't have to take this as far as basing Bard's spellcasting on a spellbook for recording their spells knowledge, but to me the Bard is easily someone who gathers up stray knowledge from lots of sources, therefore I'd make Bard's spellcasting more similar to the Wizard's than to anybody else's. (Note that Charisma can still be the key stat for Bard's spellcasting, in 5e the key stat only determines spells DC... it is not even half as important as in was in 3e).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 6275706, member: 1465"] Besides the fact that in previous editions both Sorcerers and Bards used Charisma to determine spells DC and bonus spells, I don't actually see much similarities between the two. I'm rather inclined to think that people expect them to cast spells similarly, only because they did in previous editions. If I have to say which other spellcaster the Bards feel closest to, IMHO it has to be the Wizard. I don't see the reason why Bards' spells would be an innate ability like Sorcerers. That they might get them from some otherworldly patron or deity could be possible, but being tied to a religion or pact is not really a Bard thing AFAIK. That leaves the "learn by study" option as the most plausible. Bards are already keepers of lore and often described as wandering the world. Maybe they don't have to take this as far as basing Bard's spellcasting on a spellbook for recording their spells knowledge, but to me the Bard is easily someone who gathers up stray knowledge from lots of sources, therefore I'd make Bard's spellcasting more similar to the Wizard's than to anybody else's. (Note that Charisma can still be the key stat for Bard's spellcasting, in 5e the key stat only determines spells DC... it is not even half as important as in was in 3e). [/QUOTE]
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