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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 6276159" data-attributes="member: 6677017">Hmm...according the L&L article it seems that Cha is going to be the primary stat associated with bards, so it would make sense to base their spellcasting on it. I do wonder about the fluff. As a full caster with their own spell-list, I just don't see them picking up spells haphazardly in their travels. I get the idea that there is going to be a strong bardic magic tradition.I'm expecting that, in addition to the minstrel and war-bard sorts of subclasses we're seeing in the current abandoned bard, we'll also see a loremaster type of bard. Since bardic music/performance appears to no longer be a class feature, but they get full spellcasting, my prediction is that bardic music is going to be moved directly into spells. We'll see things like song of courage or fascinating song right in their spell list. Since they have more spell slots as a full caster, they will have more uses of those abilities than they would were this done as a half-caster. This is actually a pretty cool way of doing things, since it means that those players who want a musical bard can select the musical spells they want, while those who want to pattern a bard more as a Merlin-like loremaster-magician, can simply not take any music spells, and still have the benefit of being a full-caster.It's a class that is still up in the air for me, but I'm hoping it comes out as a great and flexible re-envisioning of the class that makes it more appealing to a lot of player. And I'm someone who normally doesn't like re-envisioning D&D classes, so that's saying something.</blockquote>

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