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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 4534533" data-attributes="member: 35788">A lot of that depends on the game.  As the author of Complete Control, one ofthe things I encourage is that the prerequisites for the PrCs simply shift over to the class abilities within them.  Perhaps not all prereqs shift over to all abilities ... but I do think that class abilities should need some prereqs in many instances.  So, that will help to maintain some balance.  However - your point canot be denied.  In a group of powergamers and under a powergaming DM ... combat will be much more dangerous for everyone involved (including the players!).On the flipside, a game full of non-optimizers who design characters not for powergaming but for "reality" can also find something truly wonderful in point-buy.  Now they can learn what their character wants instead of what some author says they have to learn as the progress through a class.  In these type of games, Complete Control really works well, too.I hope you pick it up and enjoy it!  If you do, let me know what you think.  Within the "Designer's Notes" chapter I freely admit that there are people who would probably pick a different progression here and there.  But my hope is that overall the product is useful to a vast array of tables.Thank you for bringing this to the conversation going on here.  I don't play with true "optimizers" and "powergamers" all that often, so I didn't experience the progression as you describe it  (we jumped to your end position a bit quicker).  But, your expression seems very plausible - and I can see it being a natural progression within a group.  Should you pick up Complete Control, I hope that the GM would continue to be able to challenge the group in each phase as well.  I have found it to betrue in my groups.  Ultimately, I am glad that your group waws able to move through that progression and end up in a place/understandin that was a lot of fun.</blockquote>

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