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<blockquote data-quote="Diirk" data-source="post: 2259807" data-attributes="member: 14476"><p>You can have other attacks; but they're still part of the flurry.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So a lvl 1 monk with 10 str and TWF feat and a kama in the offhand can attack at -2, -2 TWF (unarmed, kama), or -2, -2 flurrying (unarmed, unarmed) or -4, -4, -4 (unarmed, unarmed, kama). No problem.</p><p></p><p>However the same monk with a light mace couldn't choose to flurry.</p><p></p><p>The reason for this is simple. Flurry of Blows lists a penalty with a duration. This means that until the duration has expired, the penalty (and thus the condition) is still in effect. If you flurry, you are flurrying until your next action, including any AoOs that you make. This precludes you from using any non-monk weapons for the duration.</p><p></p><p>For example you are hit by a cause fear spell and make you're saving throw, leaving you shaken. Until the shaken condition's duration expires, you are still under the effects of cause fear which means that a second casting won't effect you. Same thing. Until the -2 penalty duration expires, you are still under the effects of flurrying, which states you can't use non-monk weapons.</p><p></p><p>Another example of this sort of thing is double weapons. If you're using a double weapon, you can use it to TWF or for two hand fighting. If you use it for two weapon fighting, you are considered to be two weapon fighting until your next turn; you can't take an AoO and strike two handed with it. This one is spelled out a bit more explicitly tho.</p><p></p><p>Your turn, where's your rule support ? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>(try to avoid using the FAQ for this one, its a bit suspect)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Diirk, post: 2259807, member: 14476"] You can have other attacks; but they're still part of the flurry. So a lvl 1 monk with 10 str and TWF feat and a kama in the offhand can attack at -2, -2 TWF (unarmed, kama), or -2, -2 flurrying (unarmed, unarmed) or -4, -4, -4 (unarmed, unarmed, kama). No problem. However the same monk with a light mace couldn't choose to flurry. The reason for this is simple. Flurry of Blows lists a penalty with a duration. This means that until the duration has expired, the penalty (and thus the condition) is still in effect. If you flurry, you are flurrying until your next action, including any AoOs that you make. This precludes you from using any non-monk weapons for the duration. For example you are hit by a cause fear spell and make you're saving throw, leaving you shaken. Until the shaken condition's duration expires, you are still under the effects of cause fear which means that a second casting won't effect you. Same thing. Until the -2 penalty duration expires, you are still under the effects of flurrying, which states you can't use non-monk weapons. Another example of this sort of thing is double weapons. If you're using a double weapon, you can use it to TWF or for two hand fighting. If you use it for two weapon fighting, you are considered to be two weapon fighting until your next turn; you can't take an AoO and strike two handed with it. This one is spelled out a bit more explicitly tho. Your turn, where's your rule support ? ;) (try to avoid using the FAQ for this one, its a bit suspect) [/QUOTE]
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