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<blockquote data-quote="Larrin" data-source="post: 4580279" data-attributes="member: 55816">I have to say that as far as i can tell, unless you are making the attack (which is a basic attack with a +3 1d8 one handed military light blade) there is no evidence you have the weapon. It says nothing about you having the weapon outside of making the attack, so unless you make the specifically allowed attack you don't have the weapon. When you decide to make the attack, suddenly you have a&nbsp; military light blade in one hand and you make the attack, then....its gone.The weapon is very definitely include ONLY in the description of the attack, outside of the attack, I don't think it can be really argued to exist.&nbsp; If you aren't making the attack, then nothing in the description&nbsp; of the attack can really be used.&nbsp;&nbsp; I can't think of any other time in which a constant property (ie a weapon constantly at your disposal, or even something like DR 5 or +1 to teleport distance) is defined within a triggered property (ie a speacial attack the armour can make).I see where the confusion comes from; You put on a piece of armour.&nbsp; You always benefit from the AC and any properties (DR, bonuse movement, darkvision).&nbsp; At will, encounter, Daily powers only come into play when triggered, nothing within them tells you what is always active just by putting on the armour.&nbsp; Feral armour has a property that you can make an attack.&nbsp; You can always make this attack.&nbsp; That is constant.&nbsp; What isn't constant is you actually making the attack.&nbsp; Without actually making the attack, you don't get the benefits ofmaking the attack, one of which is that you have a claw to make the attack with.&nbsp; BLAH!&nbsp; Not the best way to write a property.&nbsp; Either it should have been: property: you have a +3 1d8 blah weapon (thus you do have the weapon always)&nbsp; OR at will: you may make a +3 1d8 basic melee attack (thus you don't always have it).&nbsp; The way its written though, i think its the equivalent of having an at will that lets you make a basic attack with a weapon that only shows up when you use the power.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Larrin, post: 4580279, member: 55816"] I have to say that as far as i can tell, unless you are making the attack (which is a basic attack with a +3 1d8 one handed military light blade) there is no evidence you have the weapon. It says nothing about you having the weapon outside of making the attack, so unless you make the specifically allowed attack you don't have the weapon. When you decide to make the attack, suddenly you have a military light blade in one hand and you make the attack, then....its gone. The weapon is very definitely include ONLY in the description of the attack, outside of the attack, I don't think it can be really argued to exist. If you aren't making the attack, then nothing in the description of the attack can really be used. I can't think of any other time in which a constant property (ie a weapon constantly at your disposal, or even something like DR 5 or +1 to teleport distance) is defined within a triggered property (ie a speacial attack the armour can make). I see where the confusion comes from; You put on a piece of armour. You always benefit from the AC and any properties (DR, bonuse movement, darkvision). At will, encounter, Daily powers only come into play when triggered, nothing within them tells you what is always active just by putting on the armour. Feral armour has a property that you can make an attack. You can always make this attack. That is constant. What isn't constant is you actually making the attack. Without actually making the attack, you don't get the benefits ofmaking the attack, one of which is that you have a claw to make the attack with. BLAH! Not the best way to write a property. Either it should have been: property: you have a +3 1d8 blah weapon (thus you do have the weapon always) OR at will: you may make a +3 1d8 basic melee attack (thus you don't always have it). The way its written though, i think its the equivalent of having an at will that lets you make a basic attack with a weapon that only shows up when you use the power. [/QUOTE]

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