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<blockquote data-quote="soulcatcher" data-source="post: 1184194" data-attributes="member: 5940">well, if the author is using the lst file that is encoded by a volunteer to make money without contributing anything back, then well... yes.The content is still free.&nbsp; and the author can type their own up.Look at it this way.&nbsp; If I took a photocopy of a few pages from a book from company X, and then included those photocopied pages in my own book, and sold it - well, it would be clear that I am doing something that is wrong.If I used that book as a reference, and typed some of the OGL data from the original book in mine, that would be fine.Why is that?Because the first example is a person taking more then is free.&nbsp; They are taking the formatting, the border art, and are doing no useful work on their own.&nbsp; They are giving nothing back.Well, if a person takes a PCGen, volunteer created lst file, and just includes it in a product THEY are selling, it's the same thing.People put work into the formatting, the comments, and so on.&nbsp; No one will have an issue with you taking the OGL data out of them, and making your own deravitive data files - its the issue of 'photocopying' it, and selling it.I have a problem with people treating volunteers like dirt when they would treat another publisher well - purely because what the volunteer does is made available for free.&nbsp; The LST authors ARE publishers (look and Mongoose (I think)&nbsp; All their stuff is deravitive, but peopel still treat them with respect as a publisher), they do a lot of hard work, and deserve to recieve some respect instead of scorn.At least that's my opinion.Devon JonesGMGen RegentPCGen BoDThese are my opinions, not those of the PCGen BoD</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soulcatcher, post: 1184194, member: 5940"] well, if the author is using the lst file that is encoded by a volunteer to make money without contributing anything back, then well... yes. The content is still free. and the author can type their own up. Look at it this way. If I took a photocopy of a few pages from a book from company X, and then included those photocopied pages in my own book, and sold it - well, it would be clear that I am doing something that is wrong. If I used that book as a reference, and typed some of the OGL data from the original book in mine, that would be fine. Why is that? Because the first example is a person taking more then is free. They are taking the formatting, the border art, and are doing no useful work on their own. They are giving nothing back. Well, if a person takes a PCGen, volunteer created lst file, and just includes it in a product THEY are selling, it's the same thing. People put work into the formatting, the comments, and so on. No one will have an issue with you taking the OGL data out of them, and making your own deravitive data files - its the issue of 'photocopying' it, and selling it. I have a problem with people treating volunteers like dirt when they would treat another publisher well - purely because what the volunteer does is made available for free. The LST authors ARE publishers (look and Mongoose (I think) All their stuff is deravitive, but peopel still treat them with respect as a publisher), they do a lot of hard work, and deserve to recieve some respect instead of scorn. At least that's my opinion. Devon Jones GMGen Regent PCGen BoD These are my opinions, not those of the PCGen BoD [/QUOTE]

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