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Cleave and AOO: What is the problem?
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<blockquote data-quote="Elvinis75" data-source="post: 1804332" data-attributes="member: 4379"><p>I have heard a lot of people that don’t like the idea of being able to cleave off an AOO but I don’t for the life of me understand why. The whole idea of cleave is that a person with this feat is able to attack again after they drop a creature. Some of the people that describe the abuse of this and the GC feats use method that is easily struck down by a mindful DM. They assume that “an enemy” means anyone they attack. I’m pretty sure that summoned creatures that are fighting for your side are not “enemies”. They frankly don’t pass the English language test. An enemy is:</p><p>1 : one that is antagonistic to another; especially : one seeking to injure, overthrow, or confound an opponent</p><p>2 : something harmful or deadly</p><p>3 a : a military adversary b : a hostile unit or force</p><p></p><p>If you are going to use 2 that is one heck of a stretch. A summoned creature could be made to attack an ally and thus become an enemy but then I doubt that he is going to run past the melee person and draw the AOO.</p><p>So what is the big beef? </p><p></p><p>Have there been any rulings that you can take AOO on allies?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elvinis75, post: 1804332, member: 4379"] I have heard a lot of people that don’t like the idea of being able to cleave off an AOO but I don’t for the life of me understand why. The whole idea of cleave is that a person with this feat is able to attack again after they drop a creature. Some of the people that describe the abuse of this and the GC feats use method that is easily struck down by a mindful DM. They assume that “an enemy” means anyone they attack. I’m pretty sure that summoned creatures that are fighting for your side are not “enemies”. They frankly don’t pass the English language test. An enemy is: 1 : one that is antagonistic to another; especially : one seeking to injure, overthrow, or confound an opponent 2 : something harmful or deadly 3 a : a military adversary b : a hostile unit or force If you are going to use 2 that is one heck of a stretch. A summoned creature could be made to attack an ally and thus become an enemy but then I doubt that he is going to run past the melee person and draw the AOO. So what is the big beef? Have there been any rulings that you can take AOO on allies? [/QUOTE]
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