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Cleave and AOO: What is the problem?
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<blockquote data-quote="Pbartender" data-source="post: 1805850" data-attributes="member: 7533"><p>Try thinking about it this way...</p><p></p><p>You are a Bad Guy. You have Loyal Minions to either side of you ready to fight your enemies to the death. During the course of battle, you engage the Heroic Fighter, and your Minions surround him, so that he cannot escape. Eager to show off his prowess with his 6-foot long sword, and engage you in single combat, the Heroic Fighter attacks your Minions.</p><p></p><p>One of your Minions briefly stops to retie his shoestring, the Hero's sword slides cleanly through the Minion's neck, and continues on unabated... Straight for your head. Regardless of whether you let your guard down or not, you weren't really expecting an attack from that direction, were you?</p><p></p><p>~~</p><p></p><p>I've never had a problem with it. The situation happens so rarely in our games that it's not worth worrying about, and it occasionally gives the Cleaving character a heroic way to turn the tide of a battle. If you're having that much of a problem, you probably need to change your Bad Guy tactics a little. Take a 5 ft. step out of reach before you drink a potion. Cast defensively. Let the BBEG lead from the rear.</p><p></p><p>And remember, making Summoned Creatures attack a friend not only makes the Summoned Creatures enemies... It makes the Summoning Spellcaster an enemy. The players in my group wouldn't stand for such an action, regardless of the circumstances and resulting bonuses and/or extra attacks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pbartender, post: 1805850, member: 7533"] Try thinking about it this way... You are a Bad Guy. You have Loyal Minions to either side of you ready to fight your enemies to the death. During the course of battle, you engage the Heroic Fighter, and your Minions surround him, so that he cannot escape. Eager to show off his prowess with his 6-foot long sword, and engage you in single combat, the Heroic Fighter attacks your Minions. One of your Minions briefly stops to retie his shoestring, the Hero's sword slides cleanly through the Minion's neck, and continues on unabated... Straight for your head. Regardless of whether you let your guard down or not, you weren't really expecting an attack from that direction, were you? ~~ I've never had a problem with it. The situation happens so rarely in our games that it's not worth worrying about, and it occasionally gives the Cleaving character a heroic way to turn the tide of a battle. If you're having that much of a problem, you probably need to change your Bad Guy tactics a little. Take a 5 ft. step out of reach before you drink a potion. Cast defensively. Let the BBEG lead from the rear. And remember, making Summoned Creatures attack a friend not only makes the Summoned Creatures enemies... It makes the Summoning Spellcaster an enemy. The players in my group wouldn't stand for such an action, regardless of the circumstances and resulting bonuses and/or extra attacks. [/QUOTE]
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