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<blockquote data-quote="Majere" data-source="post: 1807398" data-attributes="member: 13916"><p>Hmm</p><p>By the letter of the rules is all good and well and frankly unimportant. The only problem is if the DM lets the players abuse the rules, just dont allow it and the rules arent a problem.</p><p></p><p>If you want some falvour here it is:</p><p></p><p>"Damien the destroyer squares off against Harry the hero, swinging his sword of light and fluffyness Harry attacks twice a round and with the help of his comrades begins to press back Damien.</p><p>To Damiens aid rushes Charlie the cohort who tries to grab the sword of light and fluffyness but provokes an attack of opportunity. Harry effortly chops off Charlies hand, incapacitating him for the rest of the fight. The blow on charlie is hidden from Damian, the body of the cohort obscuring his view. Damien is unable to see Harry follow through with another attack to Damiens shoe, causing him to fall over. That one last fell blow to the metatarsle sealing his doom. "</p><p></p><p>Basically, when your friend is 5feet away from you and they fall over dead, it puts you off, they fall on you, they scream, cry, they obscure your vision of the combat. This is liable to open you up to attacks, and an opponent with the right feat can take advantage of this.</p><p></p><p>On a lighter note. </p><p>House rule :</p><p>"Monsters summoned by members of the party (or their cohorts) never counts as enemies, unless the player loses control of his summoned minions.</p><p></p><p>Party memebers never attact attacks of opportunity from one another unless the party member provoking the attack of opportunity caused the AoO because of a compulsion by an NPC, and the AoO was not caused by a deliberate action of a player."</p><p></p><p>Frankly its just common sense. But if you have rules lawyers, here is a legal document <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></p><p></p><p>Majere</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majere, post: 1807398, member: 13916"] Hmm By the letter of the rules is all good and well and frankly unimportant. The only problem is if the DM lets the players abuse the rules, just dont allow it and the rules arent a problem. If you want some falvour here it is: "Damien the destroyer squares off against Harry the hero, swinging his sword of light and fluffyness Harry attacks twice a round and with the help of his comrades begins to press back Damien. To Damiens aid rushes Charlie the cohort who tries to grab the sword of light and fluffyness but provokes an attack of opportunity. Harry effortly chops off Charlies hand, incapacitating him for the rest of the fight. The blow on charlie is hidden from Damian, the body of the cohort obscuring his view. Damien is unable to see Harry follow through with another attack to Damiens shoe, causing him to fall over. That one last fell blow to the metatarsle sealing his doom. " Basically, when your friend is 5feet away from you and they fall over dead, it puts you off, they fall on you, they scream, cry, they obscure your vision of the combat. This is liable to open you up to attacks, and an opponent with the right feat can take advantage of this. On a lighter note. House rule : "Monsters summoned by members of the party (or their cohorts) never counts as enemies, unless the player loses control of his summoned minions. Party memebers never attact attacks of opportunity from one another unless the party member provoking the attack of opportunity caused the AoO because of a compulsion by an NPC, and the AoO was not caused by a deliberate action of a player." Frankly its just common sense. But if you have rules lawyers, here is a legal document :P Majere [/QUOTE]
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