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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 233777" data-attributes="member: 996"><p><strong>Re: So even though...</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The 'additional' attack is, however, the exact same attack as the original. You can't, for isntance, cleave through one enemy in order to disarm the next. Though I think you /should/ be able to cleave when you drop someone with an AoO, you should only cleave into another enemy who is also provoking an AoO - otherwise, the second enemy, who hasn't dropped his gaurd like the one you dropped, will be able to avoid (dodge/parry/whatever) the attack. Unlike his deceased friend, he's ready for it.</p><p></p><p>In other words, you get the additional attack, you just may not have anyone to use it on - always an issue with Cleave.</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>However, I find it much more useful to think of Cleave, not as giving you and additional attack, but as retroactively making the attack which dropped the foe a freebie... Great Cleaving isn't like nabbing a video game powerup - your character doesn't suddenly accelerate or sprout extra swords or anything. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 233777, member: 996"] [b]Re: So even though...[/b] The 'additional' attack is, however, the exact same attack as the original. You can't, for isntance, cleave through one enemy in order to disarm the next. Though I think you /should/ be able to cleave when you drop someone with an AoO, you should only cleave into another enemy who is also provoking an AoO - otherwise, the second enemy, who hasn't dropped his gaurd like the one you dropped, will be able to avoid (dodge/parry/whatever) the attack. Unlike his deceased friend, he's ready for it. In other words, you get the additional attack, you just may not have anyone to use it on - always an issue with Cleave. ... However, I find it much more useful to think of Cleave, not as giving you and additional attack, but as retroactively making the attack which dropped the foe a freebie... Great Cleaving isn't like nabbing a video game powerup - your character doesn't suddenly accelerate or sprout extra swords or anything. ;) [/QUOTE]
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