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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elvinis75" data-source="post: 1310370" data-attributes="member: 4379">“So how do you rule Bless and Bane?If the person I think is my best buddy Fred the Fighter is really a doppelganger assassin sent to kill me, is he my enemy or my ally?Is he affected when I cast Bless?Is he affected when I cast Bane?As far as I know, he's my friend... but he knows he's going to stick a knife in me at first opportunity.” - HypWow for me looking at the spells it is quite clear.  The spell doesn’t talk about opinion of the character.  It is whether or not in reality they are an ally.  Therefore the doppleganger is not affected by bless and is affected by bane.  This follows the pattern that the opinion of the character isn’t the only thing taken when looking at the friends or foe question.  For clerics whose power is devine I say that the diety knows friend from foe.  The priest might not but he doesn’t have to for the spell to work.  So in short my answer is that the diety knows and bane targets him and the bless doesn’t.  Are their examples of wizard spells that follow this pattern.“Allowed in 3E; not allowed in 3.5.” - HypAgreed!“How? Without AoOs, the fighter has 4 attacks. If every one drops a mook, he gets 4 attacks on the BBEG. If the BBEG had no minions, he'd get 4 attacks on the BBEG.Without AoOs, how do the minions cause the BBEG to take more damage?” -Hyp.I totally agree with hyper on this one.  Without the instant changing the status of mooks to enemies there is no extra attacks.  That is the heart of this issue.  I think that the other person is an ally until you attack him.  Ally don’t draw AOOs IMHO.</blockquote>

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