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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elvinis75" data-source="post: 1314235" data-attributes="member: 4379">Though you are right there are ways to avoid a ZOT it was also be risky for the imposter to agree to be chain and helpless and then pulled in knowing if they failed the save they were dead.  If I were the imposter I would at that point call no joy and run.  Casting spells for a full minute and looking is a slow though fool proof process it doesn’t guarantee success.  Any ally player can resist the bless spell.  Is he not willing to accept the favor of kord(pick any) or a enemy replacement?  The player could just decline to go through your little test every day for the rest of his life.  It doesn’t stop a persistant foes from sneaking in.  He watches the group and figures out when you go through this process for the day and then replaces someone finding info and or attempts to kill one of the party.  Further proof that it is good to follow a diety and that it gives you better clarity on who is your friend and who is your foe.I would not call this situation a deal breaker on the ally enemy situtation.  I say that what works for 98% of situations is good enough.Further looking at the wider issue of a king ordering the clergy to put people to the test there is the issue of would a god continue to grant wasteful prayers.  The bless isn’t going to be the end all tell all in the what type of foe are they.  Say that a person is angry and wishes another person ill but yet hasn’t done a thing.  What about the case where one of the PC is a god hatin self made type of man and spits on your holy symbol.  You think that your diety is going to bless that person?  As a DM I can think of other situations like character races and the dieties contempt for them.  Is Grumsh going to grant favor to elves?  NIMC! Or a priest that follows an opposing diety?  To many loopholes in my campaign to call that spell sequence a lock.</blockquote>

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