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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 1314339" data-attributes="member: 259">I'm having trouble following you; would you mind proofreading posts before submitting them?  I think there must be suffixes or whole words missing or misplaced. That said, who mentioned a chained or helpless impostor?  That's not what I was talking about.  Aside:  a "slow though fool proof method it doesn't guarantee success"?  The whole point of a foolproof method is that it guarantees success.  This is an example of where your post really confused me. It doesn't take a full minute to do this trick:  it takes two, not necessarily consecutive rounds.  Round 1:  cast bless.  Round 2:  cast detect magic.  As long as the rest of the group is out of your detection arc, and as long as the subject isn't under other spells, you've got your answer immediately on casting detect magic.  This is not a trick to use in combat, sure, but my point isn't about combat: it's about resolving allegiances in a mystery-heavy, intrigue-laden adventure, in which combats are rarer than average. A persistant foe might watch the group to figure out when the spell is cast, but that only works if it's cast on a regular basis. Again, that's not the situation I'm talking about:  I'm talking about casting it to deal with specific suspicions.  I don't want a foolproof method to deal with such suspicions.  Hardly wasteful, if an orison and a first level spell enable the priests to detect any infiltrators with absolute success; on the contrary, a sensible god would demand the use of this spell combo by the faithful.  According to the rules, yes.  Gods don't micromanage; they delegate.  That's what clerics are for.  They're the middle managers of the holy hierarchy.  If a cleric decides that the god hatin man is an ally and should be subject to bless, then that god hatin man is subject to bless.  Maybe at some point the cleric's boss will have words with her, but there's nothing in the rules to suggest that the gods are second-guessing every single spell choice their clerics make. Daniel</blockquote>

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