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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 1318424" data-attributes="member: 259">No good.&nbsp; Mary is trying to kill the demon that Peter summoned.&nbsp; Her friend Mike is meanwhile trying to kill Peter himself.&nbsp; Does Mike not count as an ally, since Mary isn't trying to kill Peter?&nbsp;What if both Mike and Peter are invisible, and Mary doesn't know they're fighting?&nbsp;How broad is this &quot;active assistance&quot; and this &quot;active goal&quot; you're talking about?&nbsp;Jill has been trying to kil the demon, but unfortunately, it stunned her last round.&nbsp; She's no longer actively trying to assist in the goal, because she can't.&nbsp; Is she an ally?&nbsp;What about Bill, who would be trying to kill the demon if he wasn't under the effect of a Fear spell?&nbsp;What about Lou, Peter's henchman who has decided in the heat of battle to run away?&nbsp; Since Peter was counting on Lou's help to defend the temple, does his running away count as actively assisting Mary in defeating the temple, inasmuch as it removes one of the temple's guardians?&nbsp; Would this change if he had actively surrendered?&nbsp;If he doesn't get the blessing for removing himself from battle, does Guadelupe get the blessing for chopping Lou down before Lou gets a chance to skeedaddle?&nbsp;What about the flatfooted, those who haven't had a chance to do anything yet?&nbsp;I don't like your guidelines.Daniel</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 1318424, member: 259"] No good. Mary is trying to kill the demon that Peter summoned. Her friend Mike is meanwhile trying to kill Peter himself. Does Mike not count as an ally, since Mary isn't trying to kill Peter? What if both Mike and Peter are invisible, and Mary doesn't know they're fighting? How broad is this "active assistance" and this "active goal" you're talking about? Jill has been trying to kil the demon, but unfortunately, it stunned her last round. She's no longer actively trying to assist in the goal, because she can't. Is she an ally? What about Bill, who would be trying to kill the demon if he wasn't under the effect of a Fear spell? What about Lou, Peter's henchman who has decided in the heat of battle to run away? Since Peter was counting on Lou's help to defend the temple, does his running away count as actively assisting Mary in defeating the temple, inasmuch as it removes one of the temple's guardians? Would this change if he had actively surrendered? If he doesn't get the blessing for removing himself from battle, does Guadelupe get the blessing for chopping Lou down before Lou gets a chance to skeedaddle? What about the flatfooted, those who haven't had a chance to do anything yet? I don't like your guidelines. Daniel [/QUOTE]

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