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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4342540" data-attributes="member: 71571">Take this to extremes.  You're level 30.You have maxed out strength to it's extreme.  That's 30 strength for the people at home.  (+10 str mod)  You've got +6 from weapon focus, +2 from some other feat, +6 from its enhancement, and what the hell, let's say the DM gave you a bonus +10 damage because of some quest you did and he really likes you and your mom makes tasty cookies that he enjoys.That's +34 damage bonus, on top of the 4d6 damage you do from the cleave power.And you're up against a red dragon, and he hates you.  He hates you so hard he brought in some minions, LOTS of minions.  A bag of rats amount of the little rotters.Now, you're up against this thing with over a thousand hit points... and about 16 rotter-bag-of-rats types.... and for some reason the dragon's AC is incredibly high.  Some Deus-ex-mechina, perhaps.  A McGuffin.  It doesn't matter.So you decide the best bet to damage this dragon is to attack minions and cleave into it with your mighty +6 weapon, with +20 damage from awesomeness, and +6 damage from coolness, and +2 damage from some feat I didn't even bother to remember the name of....You hit a minion.  You do... MASSIVE... damage.  The minion has 1 hp, dies, no surprise there.Then the cleave hits the dragon...........for 10 damage.  Out of approx 1.5 THOUSAND hit points, your game breaking plan does....10 damage.But my +6 to damage from my weapon?Only applies to damage rolls.And my +6 to damage from my feat?Only applies to damage rolls.And the +10 awesomeness bonus for the cookies?Only to damage rolls.And the +2 of feat-that-cannot-be-named?Only to damage rolls.So... altho you have all these damage buffs... because you're not rolling dice for damage, you're not bumping up your rolls with your bonuses, and if your bonuses aren't applying, this 'sick' 'exploitable' damage never actually happens.Oh, and the dragon?He eats you.And burns you with fire.And then eats a minion to be evil.And burns you again.</blockquote>

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