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<blockquote data-quote="Kraydak" data-source="post: 4262495" data-attributes="member: 12306"><p>*If* your fighter is using a sword-and-board, then it will occasionally be useful to attack a secondary target in hopes of splashing onto your main one with Cleave. Any 2-hander using fighter should have Reaping Strike, which largely invalidates the whole concept (unless the very high AC opponent is a minion).</p><p></p><p>The key is that with a 1-hander, you are given up less [W] damage (on hits) and at a 50% hit rate on the low-AC guy you are doing the same damage to your desired target as Reaping Strike would on a miss.</p><p></p><p>The situation will come up, but rarely enough that you might well only notice in retrospect. In average-damage calculations, be *certain* to include criticals. The tactic is only useful against very high AC opponents, and as such *most* of your hits would also be crits (go go removal of crit confirmation rolls...). Note finally that if you are in a situation where using this tactic makes sense, you should probably be spending more mental effort on Running Away.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kraydak, post: 4262495, member: 12306"] *If* your fighter is using a sword-and-board, then it will occasionally be useful to attack a secondary target in hopes of splashing onto your main one with Cleave. Any 2-hander using fighter should have Reaping Strike, which largely invalidates the whole concept (unless the very high AC opponent is a minion). The key is that with a 1-hander, you are given up less [W] damage (on hits) and at a 50% hit rate on the low-AC guy you are doing the same damage to your desired target as Reaping Strike would on a miss. The situation will come up, but rarely enough that you might well only notice in retrospect. In average-damage calculations, be *certain* to include criticals. The tactic is only useful against very high AC opponents, and as such *most* of your hits would also be crits (go go removal of crit confirmation rolls...). Note finally that if you are in a situation where using this tactic makes sense, you should probably be spending more mental effort on Running Away. [/QUOTE]
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