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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrGrenadine" data-source="post: 4151025" data-attributes="member: 62619">On the fenceThis is why I can't wait until I have the 4e books in hand:As written, I much prefer the 3.5 cleave.  Its just as simple as the 4e version, ("If you drop a foe to 0 hp, you can make an attack on an adjacent foe" is pretty simple to me).  It also makes more sense to me in a storytelling way, but lets leave that out for now--the bigger issue for me is that the 3.5 version is just more fun.In 3.5, if I happen to knock an opponent out (fun), I get to roll another attack (fun!) which could be a critical (fun!!!) that would knock out another opponent (fun!!!!!).  That gives me a lot of hooks to hang some good roleplaying on, and I like the tension of whether or not I'd even get to use the feat, and whether or not that second attack will hit and all that.In 4e, the auto strength-modifier damage to an adjacent foe mechanic?  Although reliable, its also pretty unremarkable, which is a lot less fun to play.But here's the rub: maybe there's more info in the rules which would make the 4e version just as much fun to play.  Can't wait to see.  (And if not, I'll hope for a kindly DM who would let me use the 3.5 version.)</blockquote>