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Message: <blockquote data-quote="phindar" data-source="post: 3371987" data-attributes="member: 37198">I was watching my Clone Wars DVD for no good reason earlier today, and saw the ep with Mace Windu fighting the ginormous Grav-Tank.  There's a good scene where he loses his light saber admist a bunch of robots and just starts force-wiping them all over the place.  When you get to a certain level, against the mooks, that's what Great Cleave should look like.  (Yeah, Sauron had a nice Cleave too.)  Cleaves are one tangible area where you can do something in 3e that really wasn't possible in earlier editions (except for when I started playing OD&D, we would take extra damage left over after killing an enemy and apply it to the next enemy on the field, a sort of proto-cleave.  The Ur-Cleave.)  If I opened the book tomorrow and some great Twilight Zone/time travel twist had occurred in which I had gone back into the past and killed Leonardo Da Vinci and came back to my own time and the only change was the entry under Great Cleave said prereq BAB +8, I'd think, "It's still an awesome feat."  Thats kind of what I mean by its cheap.</blockquote>