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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jhulae" data-source="post: 3372625" data-attributes="member: 16958">But wait.  The fact is that, with cleave, no matter how 'careful' Target A is (even avoiding AoOs and such), Target A can get cleaved whether or not whether the Cleaver is making a 'normal' attack or attacking on an AoO, as long as Target A is within cleave range when the Cleaver drops someone. Regardless of whether it's on an AoO or a regular turn, a cleave is going to happen regardless of whether the Cleavee wants it to happen or has been 'super careful' or whatnot.So, what's the big deal as to whether it happens on an AoO or regular attack?  I'm confused by this point.And honestly, how do you even *know* that something has cleave or great cleave until it uses it anyway?Theoretically, if you were facing an opponent and the party Wizard summons 3 wimpy things to help attack it, when the opponent attacks and kills each summon, gaining a cleave on you, how is that any different as to whether it does the same during an AoO?</blockquote>